Who is against no-crow collars?

[the_peanut_coop]

my initial statement was about culling roosters if you have no other choice, instead of using a collar

I did not derail it but I will reply to comments when people say I shouldn't be so blunt.

chickens are livestock, I don't care how you handle them, but there are breeds of chickens bred just for food .. it is what it is.

I know, I know I know!

 

[HawaiiCoyote]

my initial statement was about culling roosters if you have no other choice, instead of using a collar

I did not derail it but I will reply to comments when people say I shouldn't be so blunt.

chickens are livestock, I don't care how you handle them, but there are breeds of chickens bred just for food .. it is what it is.

Again- agreed

 

[the_peanut_coop]

Plz keep comments according to the sujects!

 

[chickentrains]

I don't know what else there is to say

no crow collars suck, LOL

 

[Jenjens]

Sorry for getting off topic guys. I became the people that do that annoy me. I am done. Sorry again.

 

[the_peanut_coop]

Sorry for getting off topic guys. I became the people that do that annoy me. I am done. Sorry again.

I don't know what else there is to say

no crow collars suck, LOL

Yeah lol I you guys are good! there are more chickeners that need your help! GO SAVE THEM!!! recommend these conversations to your friends who haven't added to this.

 

[JacinLarkwell]

I get it, i get it, ok? According to some people, chickens only have two base functions. I know how things are! Sorry that was mean!

Didn't say you didn't get it, just said consider yourself lucky. Like I said, even for food, I can't pay to have people take extra males sometimes

 

[pidgejr]

This makes me sad. I won't even kill a bug.

Chickens kill bugs

 

[pidgejr]

I live on acreage where Roos are allowed and want to keep them behind my house so I can easily access/ Enjoi them. I won’t do a crow collar, it seems so unnatural. Roosters are such handsome creatures and were created to crow! However right behind my house means I’m in hearing range on neighbors on either side and the Roos bother them( I’m on a long deep lot). So to keep the peace,I keep my Roos separately in my barn around 150 yds away and only bring them out in the day to my hens behind the house when I want fertile eggs.

 

[father0fnine]

I've used them in the past for the sake of my neighbors. For those that don't know the mechanics: when a rooster crows, they first fill a balloon-like air sac in their throat and then force the air out to produce the crow. The collar, when used correctly, is supposed to prevent that sac from inflating. My daughter who is in theatre likened it to wearing a corset. She could still breath just fine and even dance and sing. She just couldn't take as deep a breath.

With that background I noticed:

1) The feathers around the neck break and become damaged.
2) The roos are really, really good at getting out of them.
3) It doesn't stop crowing, it just makes it quieter.

Done right, they work, and they are a tool. Like any tool, there are right ways and wrong ways to use it. I disagree with people who call them inhumane. I suppose if you put them on humans, it would be inhumane but chickens are not humans. For some people, quieting the crow can be a better alternative than putting the bird into a stew pot. On my little farm, after the roos got out of the collar, I never replaced it. When I got some new roos, I kept "forgetting" to order new collars. Now, if I've got a roo that is just a little noisier than the neighborhood can handle, I'll silence it some other way, but none of the roos are really pets to me. Now the hens... I love my hens

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P.S. On a personal note, I love to hear crowing. Maybe if I can find a roo that'll sit on my shoulder or lap the way my hens will...

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