To me they look like they could both be penciled rocks or the Meyers hatchery welsummer. I don't see much difference in the two from these picks. To me the Meyers version of welsummer is more red looking. Is there any reason they can't be the same breed?@jwyles and @Mountainbeauty yoire taking about the one with the funky feathers, right? I'm happy she's a Welsummer! Any ideas on the other one?