Why NPIP if....?

[tnchickenut]

Why get NPIP certified if you can test your birds yourself? (see... http://www.twincitypoultrysupplies.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=412)

And getting it done for free by certain states is not enough of a reason for me. Sorry to sound paranoid, but the less the government is in my (and especially my animals') buisness the better off I feel I am. Am I alone on this one?

 

[Ms.FuzzyButts]

Good question..

I suppose it would be for proper certification in case you ever should need it for things such as crossing state lines with your birds if you ever sold or show them. But

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[deerman]

You have to take a class on testing. You will need approved by the State to be a tester. You will need to be in the NPIP ,and your flock tested before you can ship birds or eggs to most State.

Even if you are able to test your own birds. If you fill out false papers , just like IRS dont get caught.....

 

[tnchickenut]

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I see your point, but I think you missed mine. The program is being sold on the premise that it is just to make sure your birds are healthy. If you test your flock yourself and know they are healthy, other than laws about state lines (which do not get inforced to the best of my knowledge), what is the point? Doesn't it scare anyone that the government must have paperwork on your flock(s)? Why would it not be enough to have a statement from a vet on hand? Why must the state and federal government have their own employees come to your home/hatchery and test (and often times # and band) your birds?

 

[Tuffoldhen]

You can't test your own birds for NPIP status unless you take a class to be a tester. Falsifying paper work is just plain wrong they should be get caught. And it does not mean your birds are healthy from other diseases other than the ones they test for unless you ask for certain tests to be done.

I like my animal health inspector and I don't see him as being in my business. NAIS is a different thing all together.

 

[tnchickenut]

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I didn't say anything about faking paperwork.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Different states have different laws about who can test for NPIP. Some require that testing be done by a state employee; some allow anyone interested to become certified. Yes, it is a National plan, but it is implemented differently in different states. In most cases you can substitute a veterinary health certificate for traveling or shipping.

 

[Tuffoldhen]

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I didn't say anything about faking paperwork.

I didn't say "you" did.

 

[weirdmuse]

Big difference between NPIP and Pullorum testing. I think I understand what you are saying in that you would like to test your own birds just for your own peace of mind about having a healthy and viable flock, not so much to be able to ship them out of state or any other reason that would be in deference to NPIP. If this is the case, I agree that maybe it would be better to do your own testing. But if you do plan any interstate transport of birds, the correct certification would be important.

 

[Prettiest Frog]

It comes down to essentially wanting a third party to test for crossing state lines.

You might not spread sick birds or abuse the privilege of self testing, but others would and have. By mandating it be done by a trained third party, a lot of those people can be weeded out.

If all people were good and honest, we wouldn't need laws. Sadly though, too often people aren't.