Willow the Great Pyrenees

[Tookie]

Yes, but I need to get better ones because she's not crazy about the ones we have

Once she get's older and bigger, I suggest using a prong collar for walking on the leash, sit, and stay...more important stuff like that. I also suggest using a shock collar for when you're teaching her to come when off leash.
In my opinion, dogs won't listen as well when training with treats, they'll be expecting treats every time you do something, and you're not always going to have them with you. Therefore they may not listen all the time because they may think you won't have a treat. Treat training is good at a young age though.
So that's just my thoughts!

 

[ShrekDawg]

Yes, especially guard dog breeds. We messed up on socialization with our GSD so it's very important to me.

Yeah exactly

 

[Pampered chicken girl]

Once she get's older and bigger, I suggest using a prong collar for walking on the leash, sit, and stay...more important stuff like that. I also suggest using a shock collar for when you're teaching her to come when off leash.
In my opinion, dogs won't listen as well when training with treats, they'll be expecting treats every time you do something, and you're not always going to have them with you. Therefore they may not listen all the time because they may think you won't have a treat. Treat training is good at a young age though.
So that's just my thoughts!

Thanks!

 

[Ilovemychicks08]

Once she get's older and bigger, I suggest using a prong collar for walking on the leash, sit, and stay...more important stuff like that. I also suggest using a shock collar for when you're teaching her to come when off leash.
In my opinion, dogs won't listen as well when training with treats, they'll be expecting treats every time you do something, and you're not always going to have them with you. Therefore they may not listen all the time because they may think you won't have a treat. Treat training is good at a young age though.
So that's just my thoughts!

You slowly take them off the treats. Like if they stay for 5 minutes they get the treat eventually teaching them to stay until said not to.

 

[MGG]

Yeah I would not do treat training. It can work on a very small puppy to get them to enjoy learning, but it creates a food driven dog that is more prone to becoming food aggressive (a very common problem in herding breeds and not a good one to encourage on purpose).
And if you don't have a treat they'll eventually not listen. Or they'll get to where they want to do whatever so badly (break and run up to that other dog, chase that chicken, chase cars, etc.) That they won't care if you have a treat or not. Or what about when there's a situation that you have to have quick control of your dog and you don't happen to have a treat.

Praise is the best reward and won't make your dog fat or food driven. It gives them a much stronger bond with you too, and makes them respect you more.

Its better to never start with treats at all, and to just use discipline/praise. This whole treat training thing is new and there's a reason it's never been done before. It didn't work before and it doesn't work now either. It goes against how all animals learn.
You can look it up too, there's hundreds of articles out there explaining what a bad idea it is. I don't get why people are still doing it. The only thing treats are helpful for is teaching "down". It can be done without treats too but it's easy to teach them down by letting them follow a treat.

 

[Pampered chicken girl]

Yeah I would not do treat training. It can work on a very small puppy to get them to enjoy learning, but it creates a food driven dog that is more prone to becoming food aggressive (a very common problem in herding breeds and not a good one to encourage on purpose).
And if you don't have a treat they'll eventually not listen. Or they'll get to where they want to do whatever so badly (break and run up to that other dog, chase that chicken, chase cars, etc.) That they won't care if you have a treat or not. Or what about when there's a situation that you have to have quick control of your dog and you don't happen to have a treat.

Praise is the best reward and won't make your dog fat or food driven. It gives them a much stronger bond with you too, and makes them respect you more.

Its better to never start with treats at all, and to just use discipline/praise. This whole treat training thing is new and there's a reason it's never been done before. It didn't work before and it doesn't work now either. It goes against how all animals learn.
You can look it up too, there's hundreds of articles out there explaining what a bad idea it is. I don't get why people are still doing it. The only thing treats are helpful for is teaching "down". It can be done without treats too but it's easy to teach them down by letting them follow a treat.

Hm ok thanks!

 

[Ilovemychicks08]

Yeah I would not do treat training. It can work on a very small puppy to get them to enjoy learning, but it creates a food driven dog that is more prone to becoming food aggressive (a very common problem in herding breeds and not a good one to encourage on purpose).
And if you don't have a treat they'll eventually not listen. Or they'll get to where they want to do whatever so badly (break and run up to that other dog, chase that chicken, chase cars, etc.) That they won't care if you have a treat or not. Or what about when there's a situation that you have to have quick control of your dog and you don't happen to have a treat.

Praise is the best reward and won't make your dog fat or food driven. It gives them a much stronger bond with you too, and makes them respect you more.

Its better to never start with treats at all, and to just use discipline/praise. This whole treat training thing is new and there's a reason it's never been done before. It didn't work before and it doesn't work now either. It goes against how all animals learn.
You can look it up too, there's hundreds of articles out there explaining what a bad idea it is. I don't get why people are still doing it. The only thing treats are helpful for is teaching "down". It can be done without treats too but it's easy to teach them down by letting them follow a treat.

If you use the treats right none of this will happen. Food aggression isnt just because of treats. And if you limit the treats they wont get overweight.
Dogs will be food driven either way.
I use treats for mine but they learn to do what i ask
Right now i am having a few issue with my pup as he is in his adolescence stage and will not listen unless i have a treat or toy in my hand. But he has to do the trick 20 times before he gets a treat. Being a axious dog treats help lure him places and to teach him its ok.

My older pup does anything i ask even without a treat.

 

[Ilovemychicks08]

If you use the treats right none of this will happen. Food aggression isnt just because of treats. And if you limit the treats they wont get overweight.
Dogs will be food driven either way.
I use treats for mine but they learn to do what i ask
Right now i am having a few issue with my pup as he is in his adolescence stage and will not listen unless i have a treat or toy in my hand. But he has to do the trick 20 times before he gets a treat. Being a axious dog treats help lure him places and to teach him its ok.

My older pup does anything i ask even without a treat.

My pup is also clicker trained so he knows when he does a good job.
We follow everything our trainer told us to do. Her being high in dog sports she knows what she is doing.
She always has treats.

 

[Pampered chicken girl]

@Fwoof come see too!

 

[Fwoof]

We were going to tsc today and decided to stop at the Amish market (we go like once a week) last week they had 2 puppies but we didn'twant to get one and leave one by itself, I thought both would be gone by now but one was left! It was the female all white one so I BEGGED my mom to let me get her, so we left and went to tsc and after much begging she said ok and we went home so I could get money and then got her!!! We brought her home, played outside, I gave her her first bath! And then we showed her off to our neighbors. She was supposed to sleep with the goats tonight at the barn where she was supposed to live but my dad said I gotta keep her at home (YAY because I wanted to) so I am gonna take her to the ranch just for fun tomorrow while I'm there but she'll live here with me. So now we have a puppy! Her name is willow, shes 8½ weeks old! Here's her during her first bathView attachment 3616996View attachment 3616997

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Oh my goodness, that is one floopy puppy! Congratulations!

(also I have that same exact gate, I use it when I let the rabbits out!)