Happy belated Birthday Jim and Cindy, sorry I missed that yesterday. The dormer and copula are kicking my butt for sure. I finally got the dormer framed and if the weather is ok today will hopefully get the copula framed. I'm planning on just framing and the walls will be plexiglass to let light in and see out of. I used to build decks and such about 15+ years ago and knew how to figure out any angle but since not doing it for so many years it's taking me a bit longer and many waste of boards. I find it amazing how when you don't use part of your knowledge how quickly you lose it.