Wisconsin "Cheeseheads"

[Dr HaHa]

TO you know I was just teasing and I expected the smack and many more. I'm sure you'll get more chances in the future. Temp is holding at the magic number and hum is still climbing. 56% right now. Have been watching to see if I can catch one orienting it's self but know that it's a gradual thing. Think I need to go outside before we need to replace the lenoleum. I've been thinking for quite awhile about temps. I wonder if there's any correlation between temps and the chicks sex like croc's and gators have. How about it you schmarties out there? OH WCc that is scary! Your very very lucky to have caught it in time! Think you'll be making things a little more stable from now on. So glad you caught it in time and all is well! Cesnasetter!

 

[otonoh]

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Very cool. I can't wait. 3-5 days huh. Hope they aren't late lol. Let me know when i can pick them up. I tested the. Brooder for 5 hours have the right temp, bought the bedding and have started paneling the interior of the coop.

Otonoh - David

 

[jvls1942]

good morning all, these turkey eggs are not doing a thing.. One was due yesterday, some today, then the 15th and 16th.. I know that the first eggs of the season are usually not fertile, but I thought some of them would be..

TO, at least fur doesn't grow on scar tissue, so you will have less to shave in the future.. a couple more sessions with the horses, and you won't have to shave at all !!!

and don't listen to DrH.. just keep it nicely combed and it won't look so bad.. maybe a couple of tiny braids ??

DrH, we had that discussion about temps and sex somewhere one time.. the consensis was with chickens, there was not ..
Did you ever hear the one about the shape of the egg? A pointy egg produces roosters, while a more gently rounded small end made pullets?? I never tested this theory..

I use the incubation thread to test my heart.. If I can get through it each day , I am good to go.. DrH has bator neck, I think I have incubation thread neck..

Annie is going to help me carry the plucker out of the garage before she heads to town.. I am going to take photos of it while it is nice and new and shinny, shiny, shiney, shinney.. ever get a word that never looks just quite right, no matter how you spell it??

 

[ParkfieldFarm]

I haven't used the incubation thread or byc as a source of info at all...I do my research elsewhere and then come here to see what people are doing/how the methods I've researched are working for people.

jvls1942, do you just read the incubation thread, or do you help people there, while also being respectful of other's desire to learn and do well? Because people are wrong does not mean they're stupid.

I don't read the incubation threads here unless I'm doing a specific search, then I read several threads with the search terms I'm looking for, analyze all of the information, and see how it fits with what I already know. From what I've understood from my reading still air incubators should be kept at 101-102, forced air at 98-99. If I'm wrong, could you provide some information and some sources?

Thanks.

 

[raimnel]

BYC needs a "like" button

for example the whole comments about the winter coat "LIKE" was warm enough out one day to wear capris, I wore them in the house and my DS 13 was comparing leg hair length.

thankfully he won

ever get a word that never looks just quite right, no matter how you spell it?? "LIKE" YES, alot!

however I usually backspace and type again until it looks right ( or I just get out my speller)

I now have 48 chicks out of 60 eggs calulating...... 80% hatch rate or 88% of the eggs that went into "lock down"

I can handle that. I also have 3 more eggs, but I never expect the last ones to hatch, seems they never do. and I know that one of those had a moving chick in it YESTERDAY? I just hate that!

THis head ache doesn't want to go away, it's still lingering

Jim heres one for you, (or any body else) what for heck causes that wry neck? (is that what it's called?) I got a chick (5 weeks) that flips it head over, walks backwards..... I have to feed it. I did see it eating this a.m. after I feed it some. what can one do for wry neck?

later

 

[Sweetfolly]

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Theoretically, it was supposed to produce ALL Blue Bibbeds, but I got a surprise today when I got home - both babies are fluffed out in the brooder and one of them is a Blue Fawn!

The Blue makes sense, as the Butterscotch mom will pass on one copy of the Blue dilution to ALL of her babies, and the Blue Bibbed mom will pass it on to 50% of her babes - 75% of the ducklings from this pen are going to be Blue, but I thought it was all going to be on a Black base, not a Mallard base! So, if that's coming from the Blue Bibbed mom, I have a possibility of getting Mallard-Gray babies from this pen too! If it's from the Butterscotch mom, she'll probably keep giving me all Blue Fawns. I dunno.

The idea behind using the Butterscotch (besides the fact that I sold my other pair of Butterscotch and don't have a mate for her), was that if she produced Blue Bibbeds with the Black drake, and I bred those Blues back to the Black drake, I had a possibility of hatching Self-Blues and Blacks - which is what I'd like to focus on moving forward.

*Edited to add: Okay, I figured out the Blue Fawn duckling mystery - it was so simple!

My black drake must be split (heterozygous) for the extended black gene (E/e+). So, he'll pass extended black on to half of his babies with the Butterscotch hen. That crossing is going to give me 50% Blue Fawns, and 50% Blue Bibbeds. I'm glad I figured it out - it's been bugging me ALL DAY!

And it gets even more exciting than that! Remember, BL4, the Calls we got from Karen? I know that Bonnie & Clyde sadly didn't make it

- but, their mom was White, and their dad was Butterscotch. Mom must have been Extended Black "underneath" the White in order to produce all Blue Bibbed/Magpie ducklings. So, that means that my little Sprinkles and my Black drake, Jet, are BOTH split for the Extended Black gene. From those two, I could get: Blue Dusky, Blue Bibbed, Self-Blue, Blue Fawn, Dusky, Grey, Black Bibbed, and Self-Black ducklings!

Which is super-exciting, because I've been looking all over the country for Dusky Calls with no luck, so I'd LOVE to be able to start a line of them from my own birds! And I didn't think I'd be getting Self-Blues and Blacks for another generation yet, but nearly 20% of the offspring from Jet and Sprinkles should be Self-Blues and Blacks!!!

Anyways, that's the end of my genetics rant for the day. Sorry for those of you who aren't interested!

I have another Call egg in the 'bator that's internally pipped and due to hatch in the next 2-3 days. We'll see what hatches next!

I do love surprises!

Blue Bibbed duckling:

Blue Fawn Duckling (with Mille Cochin chicks in the background!

):

Both babies together:

 

[jvls1942]

KeeDokes, I do help people out over there until I get static from other people who start with the wrong info..

I do not push it because I was kicked off this group for standing my ground once before.. I only came back to mingle with the Cheeseheads.. I really don't have the desire to correct all the mistakes on BYC..

I might not always be right, but I do know when I AM right and something is wrong..

I seldom answer anybody if there are more than 2 or 3 replies.. By then they already have all the wrong information they need, and they will not pay any heed to what I might say..

I do not make fun of anybody there.. they do not know that I am just reading the stuff and shaking my head..

I do not have to justify my statement that 99.5F is the incubatiion temp for eggs.. that is something that you will read with any set of instructions of any incubator you buy.. that is the temp we used 45 years ago when se did not have fans in our round steel incubators.. I also have hatched eggs in a kerosene heated incubator at 99.5F..

I don't know who started this myth about 101F.. I have a hunch it was somebody who had a successful hatch at 101F with their incubator.. the temp might have been actually 99.5F but their thermometer read 101F..

and I have argued with many people about the different temperatures at different levels in a LG or Hova bator..

You will never convince me that anybody on BYC has the instrumentation to accurately measure such minute differences, much less the difference between the temp from the top of an egg to half way down that same egg.. If they could afford to buy such equipment, then they would not be using LG , Hova, or homemade bators..

I defy anybody to MAKE their bator hold these stratisfied temps.

Go there and read how many people are reporting hatchings on day 18, 19 and 20.. that is caused by higher than 99.5F temps.
I did not make this up.. ask those people what temps they incubated at.. don't take my word for it..

IMHO

 

[jvls1942]

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wry neck?
I never saw one that lived that long.. I always suspected too high temp during incubation was the cause,, usually they snap out of it in about 2 or 3 days, or die..

 

[Dandelion Acres]

Along the same lines as the Incubation debate......Someone recently asked me about raising chickens and I told them it's simple, read all the info you can find, Then just Do it, and while your raising chickens throw away all the crap you just read...LOLOLOL. Seriously though, if I had believed all the junk I read and people told me about raising chickens I would have never gotten into it. And thats all I got to say bout that!


On another note I filled the cold frame with seeds of all sorts yesterday afternoon....just in time for our little cold snap

Oh well at least Spring has Sprung FINALLY!!!! Also planted my Hops...WOOT. Have a great weekend all!

 

[dkvart1]

Raimnel, hope the headache goes away. Haven't had a migraine in nearly 8 years, came very close last week in hospital, triggered by caffiene withdrawl

I have both types, the one where you just want to curl up and die and occular migraines, which is like trying to look through a prism. First one like that I had hit me in the shower and looked like the letter C someone had made with a paint brush, in the wildest glowing colors I've ever seen (haven't ever really seen them on this planet!) and felt sick to my stomach and weak, honestly thought I might be on the verge of a seizure of stroke. Nope, occular migraine. Thankfully they usually don't go full blown migraine and they usually don't hurt but I am incapicated because you can't function trying to see through the wild designs and crazy colors!

WCc - yikes! So glad you were home and caught it before it was worse.

Terri O - OUCH! That pic made my shins hurt! Thankfully none of the kids got hurt though. Your pigeons are very pretty.

baby - how wonderful you get some EE's for hatching some, sounds like a great deal!

Jim, best of the luck w/that shiney, shinny, shinney, shiny plucker!

Happens to me too, usually a word I've typed a thousand times at least and then suddenly one day out of the blue it strikes me as funny looking and I find myself wondering if it's right or have I been writing it wrong all these times...