Worm? What kind?

[birdlady79]

Oh

How old are the birds and what type and dosage of Corid did you use? How long did you dose the water each time, and did you make a fresh solution each morning?

Oh and I change 2 to 4 times a day.... I'm a little OCD...

 

[Michael Apple]

I have used corid twice so far.... My chicks are about 6 and 4 wks..... I was using 1tsp per gallon....I've started them back on medicated food but had to use non medicated bc I just finished dosing them Monday..... They've never been in grass so I'm thinking it isn't worms... But the symptoms sound like worms when you read up on it....like the poo being sticky and foul.... A lot of diseases mimick others it seems and it gets confusing...

Okay. They don't need to be wormed at that age. Was the Corid 20% powder or 9.6% liquid at 1 tsp per gallon? I have found that preventative dosing of water instead of medicated feed works best. I begin at about 3 weeks of age, dosing water for 5 days in a row, every three weeks. After the last day of corid, I then supplement water with vitamins, minerals and probiotics for 3 days. There is a preventative dose to assist with immunity, and there is a treatment dose if there are symptoms. The proper amount must be used in order for it to be effective, so let me know whether it was the powder or the liquid so there's no confusion.

 

[birdlady79]

Thank

Okay. They don't need to be wormed at that age. Was the Corid 20% powder or 9.6% liquid at 1 tsp per gallon? I have found that preventative dosing of water instead of medicated feed works best. I begin at about 3 weeks of age, dosing water for 5 days in a row, every three weeks. After the last day of corid, I then supplement water with vitamins, minerals and probiotics for 3 days. There is a preventative dose to assist with immunity, and there is a treatment dose if there are symptoms. The proper amount must be used in order for it to be effective, so let me know whether it was the powder or the liquid so there's no confusion.

Thank you for info... It was the liquid... So I should start over? I'm very new to this and it's hard for me to put any kind of vitamin in their mouths or anything else.... I used polyvisol in water... I also feed yogurt.. And I'm feeding ff and dry food ... If I'm doing the ff correct they should be getting beneficial probiotics correct?

 

[Michael Apple]

Thank



Thank you for info... It was the liquid... So I should start over? I'm very new to this and it's hard for me to put any kind of vitamin in their mouths or anything else.... I used polyvisol in water... I also feed yogurt.. And I'm feeding ff and dry food ... If I'm doing the ff correct they should be getting beneficial probiotics correct?

Stop the fermented feed if that is what you mean by ff. That is likely causing the digestive problems. Feed a balanced starter/grower feed that is not medicated. Do not give yogurt since the calcium content is too high for chicks. Use a vitamin,mineral, and probiotic formulated for poultry, not Polyvisol. Avian Super Pack is a proper vitamin supplement. Probios is a proper probiotic supplement. Both are a dispersible powders to be used in waterers and have an excellent absorption rate. If you have Corid 9.6% liquid, the 1tsp per gallon dose is the correct preventative dose. Years ago I began using Corid as I stated in the previous post. I do it up until at least 7 months of age. I haven't lost a bird to Coccidiosis since.

 

[birdlady79]

Ok

Stop the fermented feed if that is what you mean by ff. That is likely causing the digestive problems. Feed a balanced starter/grower feed that is not medicated. Do not give yogurt since the calcium content is too high for chicks. Use a vitamin,mineral, and probiotic formulated for poultry, not Polyvisol. Avian Super Pack is a proper vitamin supplement. Probios is a proper probiotic supplement. Both are a dispersible powders to be used in waterers and have an excellent absorption rate. If you have Corid 9.6% liquid, the 1tsp per gallon dose is the correct preventative dose. Years ago I began using Corid as I stated in the previous post. I do it up until at least 7 months of age. I haven't lost a bird to Coccidiosis since.

Ok I'll get the powdered vitamins and use those.... I have some powdered probiotics .. I'll continue with the non medicated food... And I'll use corid every 3weeks for 5 days? What age can i start back with the fermented food? Can I feed them fruit and spinach and oats still? I haven't fed any treats this week just a few oats...

 

[Michael Apple]

Ok
Ok I'll get the powdered vitamins and use those.... I have some powdered probiotics .. I'll continue with the non medicated food... And I'll use corid every 3weeks for 5 days? What age can i start back with the fermented food? Can I feed them fruit and spinach and oats still? I haven't fed any treats this week just a few oats...

Chicks require a well balanced feed at such a fast growth rate. I don't give darn what people say chicks get in nature when raised by a mother hen. If they had such a great survival rate out in the elements, then we would leave it to that, and wouldn't raise them in brooders. this pertains to us providing the food. When we feed chicks other treats and foods that interrupt the absorption of required nutrients, we stunt growth, and invite other potential problems. Oats are a good source of protein, hulls are good for feathers, but soaked oats, or too much can promote diarrhea and be lacking in nutrients they benefit from in a well formulated diet. Below is an example of a well formulated chick starter that will provide good development to maturity. I have raised chicks on this diet and they grew with great vitality. I don't work for or have stock with this company, lol. I just appreciate a well formulated feed.

KING BRAND
ORGANIC CHICK START
& GROW CRUMBLES
______________________________________________________________________________________
GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
Crude Protein, not less than..........…………………………...................22.0%
Lysine, not more than…………………………………………………..……1.0%
Methionine, not less than……………………………………………………0.4%
Crude Fat, not less than................................…………………………......2.5%
Crude Fiber, not more than......................……………………………........5.0%
Ash, not more than………………………………..……………………..……8.0%
Calcium, not less than..............................……………………………........0.8%
Calcium, not more than.............................…………………………….......1.2%
Phosphorus, not less than...........................……………………………....0.6%
Sodium, not more than..............................……………………………......0.3%
_________________________________________________________________________________
INGREDIENTS
Organic Soybean Meal, Organic Wheat, Organic Corn, Ground Limestone, Organic Flaxseed, Monocalcium &
Dicalcium Phosphate, Diatomaceous Earth, Mineral Sea Salt (Redmond), DL Methionine, Hydrolyzed Yeast,
Brewers Dried Yeast, Calcium Carbonate, Organic Garlic Granules, Organic Horseradish Powder, Organic Star
Anise Oil, Organic Juniper Berry Oil, Reed Sedge Peat, Calcium Bentonite, Choline Chloride, Manganese
Oxide, Niacin Supplement, Zinc Oxide, Vitamin E Supplement, Ferrous Sulfate, D-Calcium Pantothenate,
Vitamin A Supplement, D-Biotin, Riboflavin Supplement, Tribasic Copper Chloride, Vitamin B-12 Supplement,
Vitamin D3 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Menadione Dimethyl Pyrimidinol Bisulfate (Source of
Vitamin K activity), Ethylene Diamine Dihydroiodide, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Sodium Selenite.
______________________________________________________
FEEDING DIRECTIONS
1. Feed Organic Chick Start & Grow Crumbles free choice as the sole ration to growing chickens.
2. Store Organic Chick Start Crumbles in a cool, dry area. Never feed moldy or insect-infested feeds.

 

[birdlady79]

Ok.

Chicks require a well balanced feed at such a fast growth rate. I don't give darn what people say chicks get in nature when raised by a mother hen. If they had such a great survival rate out in the elements, then we would leave it to that, and wouldn't raise them in brooders. this pertains to us providing the food.  When we feed chicks other treats and foods that interrupt the absorption of required nutrients, we stunt growth, and invite other potential problems. Oats are a good source of protein, hulls are good for feathers, but soaked oats, or too much can promote diarrhea and be lacking in nutrients they benefit from in a well formulated diet. Below is an example of a well formulated chick starter that will provide good development to maturity. I have raised chicks on this diet and they grew with great vitality.  I don't work for or have stock with this company, lol. I just appreciate a well formulated feed.

KING BRAND

ORGANIC CHICK START

& GROW CRUMBLES

______________________________________________________________________________________

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS

Crude Protein, not less than..........…………………………...................22.0%

Lysine, not more than…………………………………………………..……1.0%

Methionine, not less than……………………………………………………0.4%

Crude Fat, not less than................................…………………………......2.5%

Crude Fiber, not more than......................……………………………........5.0%

Ash, not more than………………………………..……………………..……8.0%

Calcium, not less than..............................……………………………........0.8%

Calcium, not more than.............................…………………………….......1.2%

Phosphorus, not less than...........................……………………………....0.6%

Sodium, not more than..............................……………………………......0.3%

_________________________________________________________________________________

INGREDIENTS

Organic Soybean Meal, Organic Wheat, Organic Corn, Ground Limestone, Organic Flaxseed, Monocalcium &

Dicalcium Phosphate, Diatomaceous Earth, Mineral Sea Salt (Redmond), DL Methionine, Hydrolyzed Yeast,

Brewers Dried Yeast, Calcium Carbonate, Organic Garlic Granules, Organic Horseradish Powder, Organic Star

Anise Oil, Organic Juniper Berry Oil, Reed Sedge Peat, Calcium Bentonite, Choline Chloride, Manganese

Oxide, Niacin Supplement, Zinc Oxide, Vitamin E Supplement, Ferrous Sulfate, D-Calcium Pantothenate,

Vitamin A Supplement, D-Biotin, Riboflavin Supplement, Tribasic Copper Chloride, Vitamin B-12 Supplement,

Vitamin D3 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Menadione Dimethyl Pyrimidinol Bisulfate (Source of

Vitamin K activity), Ethylene Diamine Dihydroiodide, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Sodium Selenite.

______________________________________________________

FEEDING DIRECTIONS

1. Feed Organic Chick Start & Grow Crumbles free choice as the sole ration to growing chickens.

2. Store Organic Chick Start Crumbles in a cool, dry area. Never feed moldy or insect-infested feeds.

Thank you.... I'm feeding chick starter that I get from my local feed store... I wasn't pleased with TSC section.... I'm looking for something more on the organic side our town just doesn't offer organic.. . I will search for that brand... Thank you for all the info, maybe now I can get them straightend out...

 

[Michael Apple]

Ok.
Thank you.... I'm feeding chick starter that I get from my local feed store... I wasn't pleased with TSC section.... I'm looking for something more on the organic side our town just doesn't offer organic.. . I will search for that brand... Thank you for all the info, maybe now I can get them straightend out...

You're welcome, birdlady. I have observed the stock feeds carried by TSC. Nothing but junk. Their main brand, Dumor, has been on the recall list more than once, likely due to foreign, low quality ingredients. Dumor is owned by Land O' Lakes which owns Purina. A local vet has treated numerous dogs for Clostridium infections, some which died, due to treats containing chicken from China. These treats were labeled as Made in USA. It is a shame how much homework must be done these days in order to avoid poisons in our food.

King Feeds (L.A. Hearne) is a California based company, so I doubt you'll find it in your area. Ask folks in your area and you may be able to find something of comparable quality. Good luck.