Wormer - Pyrantel Pamoate

[farmer joal]

Does it have an egg with holding period?

 

[Folly's place]

I don't think that it's labeled for poultry, at least for laying hens. If so, there won't be a withdrawal period listed, as it's not supposed to be used. Often small animal veterinarians aren't aware of the issues with using drugs in food animals, and will recommend meds that are off the approved list, which is VERY short. Mary

 

[casportpony]

Does it have an egg with holding period?

You can have your veterinarian submit a withdrawal request here:
http://cafarad.ucdavis.edu/farmweb/FARADRequest.aspx?showConcentration=yes

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

I don't think that it's labeled for poultry, at least for laying hens. If so, there won't be a withdrawal period listed, as it's not supposed to be used. Often small animal veterinarians aren't aware of the issues with using drugs in food animals, and will recommend meds that are off the approved list, which is VERY short. Mary

I think you already know this, but many people don't...

In the US there is only one de-wormer that's "labeled" for laying hens, and that's hygromycin b. Piperazine and fenbendazole are approved for meat birds, but not for laying hens.

In the UK flubendazole and fendbendazole are "approved" for use in laying hens with a zero day egg withdrawal.

So does this mean that other de-worming drugs can't be used to treat laying hens, 'cause there is a huge difference between "approved" and "banned". I Pyrantel is not on the banned list, so I think it can be used as long as proper withdrawals are followed. Using Pyrantel is no different than using Safeguard, Valbazen, Ivermectin or Wazine.

The following are from this:
https://vet.osu.edu/sites/vet.osu.e...ng the treatment of backyard poultry 2015.pdf
[ATTACHMENT=1031]Eggresidueconsiderationsduringthetreatmentofbackyard.pdf (88k. pdf file)[/ATTACHMENT]

The treatment of backyard poultry
can be a daunting task for veterinarians because only
limited resources are available; however, it is likely to
become an increasingly common task owing to the increasing
popularity of backyard poultry throughout the
United States, especially in urban and suburban areas.
Although backyard poultry flock owners may consider
their birds pets, the FDA considers them food-producing
animals, and veterinarians should follow all regulations
that pertain to food-producing animals when administering
or prescribing drugs to those birds. The lack of
FDA-approved drugs for use in laying hens frequently
necessitates the use of drugs in an extralabel manner in
backyard poultry. Unfortunately, information regarding
the depletion of drug residues in eggs from hens treated
with various drugs in an extralabel manner is sparse or
lacking, and veterinarians need to be cognizant of this
issue, especially when the eggs from treated hens are
intended for human consumption.

 

[casportpony]

Round, the pyrantel was what my vet recommended

I strongly suggest that you contact your vet and confirm the dose, because I found another source that lists a dose that's much higher. Try sending your vet an email.

-Kathy

 

[loulachick]

I strongly suggest that you contact your vet and confirm the dose, because I found another source that lists a dose that's much higher. Try sending your vet an email.

Will do, i have been calling for the past few days to get the info and even stopped in but the tech has not asked him For me, she thinks that the dosage and directions will be on the bottle, its a dog wormer and will not have directions for chickens, i cant get her to understand that ...smh,

-Kathy

 

[loulachick]

I don't think that it's labeled for poultry, at least for laying hens. If so, there won't be a withdrawal period listed, as it's not supposed to be used. Often small animal veterinarians aren't aware of the issues with using drugs in food animals, and will recommend meds that are off the approved list, which is VERY short. Mary

My vet is a farm vet so he knows about chickens as well

 

[casportpony]

Quote: So I read up on "extra label drug use" and "Animal Medicinal Drug Use Clarification Act", and if I read it correctly, your vet may prescribe any drug as long as he/she follows the rules. What concerns me is that your vet suggested that you use pyrantel pamoate, but did not tell you which one to use, or how much to use. There are several available, so dosing will not be the same with each one.


-Kathy

 

[loulachick]

Thank you Kathy, he did contact me and said to contact him for dosage!!! I decided to go with safeguard for goats in the meantime

 

[casportpony]

Thank you Kathy, he did contact me and said to contact him for dosage!!! I decided to go with safeguard for goats in the meantime

You're welcome, and thanks for posting here. If you hadn't, I would not have read up on extra-label drug use.

-Kathy