Worming Dilemma

[Eggcessive]

I'll do the math again, 'cause I might be wrong, but last time I did it came out to 47 ml per gallon for the non-pigeon dose.

According to Jedds directions, you would use 25 ml Wormout gel per gallon for pigeons and half that for aviary birds. But I am getting dizzy with all of the math. Vetafarm dosage is different than Jedds, or more complicated to me.

The powder that ngennetta found is much better buy, and easier to mix. The Wormout liquid is very hard to get mixed into the water.

 

[ngennetta]

From what little I know about pigeons and wormers like oxfendazole, Fenbendazole, and albendazole is that when using these drugs you must be careful. I suspect that the chicken dose when using this product will be at least twice what it is for pigeons.

I can easily use your dosing:

20 mg/kg
0.065 ml per pound of body weight
or
0.32 ml per five pounds of body weight. This amount is about the size of a pea. There are 19 doses in one tube if you use this amount.

10 mg/kg
0.03 ml per pound of body weight
0.16 ml per five pounds of body weight
There are 38 doses in one tube if you use this amount.

And calculate the amount of the Wormer Deluxe to add to the water

 

[ngennetta]

According to Jedds directions, you would use 25 ml Wormout gel per gallon for pigeons and half that for aviary birds. But I am getting dizzy with all of the math. Vetafarm dosage is different than Jedds, or more complicated to me.

The powder that ngennetta found is much better buy, and easier to mix. The Wormout liquid is very hard to get mixed into the water.

I am a paramedic, and often perform drug calculations at work. I can use casportpony's previous post of dosages to calculate the dosing. I just don't know if they should be given 10 mg/kg or 20 mg/kg

 

[casportpony]

I am a paramedic, and often perform drug calculations at work. I can use casportpony's previous post of dosages to calculate the dosing. I just don't know if they should be given 10 mg/kg or 20 mg/kg

The veterinary references I have list both. Plumb's says 10 mg/kg

These books say this:
http://avianmedicine.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/18.pdf

http://avianmedicine.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/09_therapeutic_agents.pdf

 

[casportpony]

This is where I got the info about the Wormout Gel 100 ml bottle which treats or makes 4 gallons of medicated water for pigeons. (The dosage for aviary birds is 1/2 of that)
https://www.foyspigeonsupplies.com/medications/worms-wormers/36-vetafarms-wormout-gel-100ml-cc

Vetfarm "All aviary birds: Add 2mL of Wormout Gel to 160mL of drinking water."
3785 ml = one gallon
3785 / 160 x 2 = 47.3 ml per gallon.

I think foy's made a typo.

 

[Kiki]

I prefer the manufacturer's directions myself. Vetfarm.

 

[Eggcessive]

@casportpony, I think it is interesting that Jedds directions and Foys both say that pigeons get one dosage, and aviary birds get half that dose, not the other way around.

 

[ngennetta]

The veterinary references I have list both. Plumb's says 10 mg/kg

These books say this:
http://avianmedicine.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/18.pdf
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http://avianmedicine.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/09_therapeutic_agents.pdf
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This is PERFECT!!! Thank you. I love these resources

 

[casportpony]

@casportpony, I think it is interesting that Jedds directions and Foys both say that pigeons get one dosage, and aviary birds get half that dose, not the other way around.

I wonder if one just copied directions from the other?

 

[dawg53]

Thanks for the explanation. I can see why that would be a debated topic.
Do the wormers you use have an egg withdrawal? How would you avoid that with a monthly worming?

We eat the eggs after worming. I'm still here typing. If you think that you might be allergic to the ingredients or someone else in your family, toss them in the garbage. I wouldnt give any away nor sell them neither.