WORMING! I need a definitive "How To"

wrongtreefarm

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Apr 19, 2013
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One of our Buff Orpington hens died this week. She was totally healthy looking, so we weren't too sure what to think of it. Our girls are moulting right now, and we're working to get a couple of broody hens out of their hormonal haze. Because of this, we had wondered if she neglected her food and water (as some broody hens will do) to the point of death, but she was much heavier than a lot of our other girls and looked fantastic. I've also wondered if she was egg-bound, but it's hard to tell as our egg production has gone down since they started moulting.

We gave all of our birds a dusting with DE and dusted the corners of their coops as I've read that mites can make a broody hen weak. During this time, we noticed that several of them are quite thin. They have free access to food (laying mash with oyster shell), get appropriate produce scraps and egg shells, and we have upped their black oil sunflower seeds to help them with protein while they work to grow their new feathers, so I can't think of why they'd be that thin. They range in a run, however, and the great outdoors has lots of creepy crawlies in it, so I'm going to worm them just to be sure.

Before anybody bothers responding to this question with the thousands of natural remedies out there, my research has shown me that, while they can create a less hospitable environment for parasites, they don't actually help with serious internal infestations. As a former dog daycare owner, I can't tell you how many times I handed dog owners giving their dogs garlic as a dewormer baggies full of their dogs' wormy poo to show them why I insisted on regular deworming. I'm less familiar with bird parasites, but with 30 hens potentially at risk and dogs kids on the property, I'm not going to muck around.

So, here's what I need to know and cannot find answers on:

- Do I need to toss the eggs after treatment with Piperazine? If so, for how long? (I've heard two weeks, one week and not at all.)
- After Piperazine (which I'm starting with as roundworms are the most common), should I follow up with a broader spectrum wormer? And if so, which one do we use in Canada and what's the egg withdrawal time?

Thanks in advance, BYC peeps.
 
We also have Buff Orpingtons that are about 11 months old. I found a couple of round worms in their poo a couple days ago.
After quite a bit of research, we went with Safeguard. Soaked a tiny piece of bread in 1/2 cc and they ate it no problems. Well do it again in 10 days. Hopefully that does the trick.
 
Look for fenbendazole which is used in cattle, horses, and goats. It comes in paste and liquid which are best for chickens--1/2 ml or a pea sized dollop of paste for most chickens.
 
Yes, it gets all chicken worms except for tapeworm which is rare, and is visible in the droppings as white dots. It will also treat gapeworm and cecal worms when given at a double dose for 3-4 days in a row. Most just use 1/2 ml once, repeat in 10 days, and egg withdrawal is 14 days after last dose.
 
So a full 24 days of egg withdrawal starting from the first dose? Wow, that's almost two full months of the year if you do it twice. Definitely worth it when you consider the cost of losing a whole flock. I'd love to find something with a shorter or nonexistent withdrawal period though.

So far the chickens are really liking the piperazine water. I read on one chicken supply website that there's no egg withdrawal for it, and I've called a local vet to confirm. I'm interested to see if they perk up from this treatment. We have three separate coops, and it's only my buffs that seem to be a little off. Still, I'm not risking it.
 
So a full 24 days of egg withdrawal starting from the first dose? Wow, that's almost two full months of the year if you do it twice. Definitely worth it when you consider the cost of losing a whole flock. I'd love to find something with a shorter or nonexistent withdrawal period though. 

So far the chickens are really liking the piperazine water. I read on one chicken supply website that there's no egg withdrawal for it, and I've called a local vet to confirm. I'm interested to see if they perk up from this treatment. We have three separate coops, and it's only my buffs that seem to be a little off. Still, I'm not risking it.

Try adding DE to their feed in small amounts.
 
This is what I have read and is why I'm opting for the chemical route. I'm all for natural when it comes to food and insecticides, but when it comes to highly contagious viruses, bacteria and internal parasites, I want what's guaranteed to be effective.
 

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