Worming Peafowl

[casportpony]

Ivermectin does not kill all worms. Neither does Safeguard nor any other wormer for that matter. This is why most peafowl breeders treat with safeguard then Ivermectin. If you read the threads you will see ALL the post state this. http://www.upc-online.org/chickens/propercare.htm This website states that Ivermectin kills gape worms. So it is not just listed here it is on other sites as well.

Safeguard when given several days in a row is effective against all worms that I worry about in peafowl. Sorry, but that site is wrong and it even says this:

"9) PLEASE NOTE: The advice about medicines (antibiotics and worming medicine) is the advice of a layperson. UPC President Karen Davis is NOT a veterinarian. "

Please show me one properly documented study that shows iveremectin kills gapes.

Like I said before, I know you and several others have been doing things a certain way, which is fine if it works for you, but I prefer to go by properly documented studies and the advice of my vet and think some people will appreciate what I have found.

-Kathy

 

[Yoda]

I would pay for you to come over to my house and do that! You would be crying you want to go home LOL I want to see you weigh my adult birds LOL You only have a few and when I had a few I could hold them and pet them and so on. Then I got more and they had babies and there is no way you can "handle" each and every bird and stick a syringe in the birds mouth and it doesn't try to get it out. Those pictures show a tame bird and can be misleading to other prople. If you can catch my birds then they are sick LOL

 

[casportpony]

Albendazole (Valbazen) is another very good wormer and when given at 20mg/kg *once* is effective against Roundworms, Cecal worms, Tapeworms and Capillary worms. Will try to find that study. I have not used that yet as there are warnings about aplastic anemia and I want to talk to my vet about that.

-Kathy

 

[Yoda]

Safeguard when given several days in a row is effective against all worms that I worry about in peafowl. Sorry, but that site is wrong and it even says this:

"9) PLEASE NOTE: The advice about medicines (antibiotics and worming medicine) is the advice of a layperson. UPC President Karen Davis is NOT a veterinarian. "

Please show me one properly documented study that shows iveremectin kills gapes.

Like I said before, I know you and several others have been doing things a certain way, which is fine if it works for you, but I prefer to go by properly documented studies and the advice of my vet and think some people will appreciate what I have found.

-Kathy

You ARE NOT a Veterinarian either but you post advice and tell people without seeing the bird what it has and what you DO NOT think it has so you are no different and now you say that person who has been doing it for over 15 years is WRONG and you are RIGHT? Please PM me your Vet's munber cause I want to talk to him or her. I can give you my bird vet number and you can ask them - here is the website http://kbahonline.vetstreet.com/ please show me yours cause your seems to be the only vet who knows about birds

 

[casportpony]

I would pay for you to come over to my house and do that! You would be crying you want to go home LOL I want to see you weigh my adult birds LOL You only have a few and when I had a few I could hold them and pet them and so on. Then I got more and they had babies and there is no way you can "handle" each and every bird and stick a syringe in the birds mouth and it doesn't try to get it out. Those pictures show a tame bird and can be misleading to other prople. If you can catch my birds then they are sick LOL

You're right that is a tame bird, but I also have some very wild adults and those get 2ml if they're a hen and 3ml if they're male, period. I only have 40, so way less than some, but it's still a lot of work for me, but I am used to dealing with very large unruly horses, so maybe that gives me an advantage?

Maybe I should take some pictures of me worming my wildest male?

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

You ARE NOT a Veterinarian either but you post advice and tell people without seeing the bird what it has and what you DO NOT think it has so you are no different and now you say that person who has been doing it for over 15 years is WRONG and you are RIGHT? Please PM me your Vet's munber cause I want to talk to him or her. I can give you my bird vet number and you can ask them - here is the website http://kbahonline.vetstreet.com/ please show me yours cause your seems to be the only vet who knows about birds

I never said I was a vet and the references to my vet have been about dose amounts and using metronidazole, Safeguard, Baytril and Clavamox. What did I post that made you think this "cause your seems to be the only vet who knows about birds"?

I also never said anyone was wrong and I was right, but there are people that like to see properly published articles and data, that's a fact.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Here is more gapeworm info:






It says fenbendazole 30mg/kg for five days, the other says 20mg/kg for three days.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

A Valbazen (albendazole) study:

Source:http://japr.oxfordjournals.org/content/16/3/392.short
Determination of the Anthelmintic Efficacy of Albendazole in the Treatment of Chickens Naturally Infected with Gastrointestinal Helminths

1. C. A. Tucker,
2. T. A. Yazwinski1,
3. L. Reynolds,
4. Z. Johnson and
5. M. Keating

+ Author Affiliations

1. Department of Animal Science, University of Arkansas, Fayetteville 72701

1. ↵1 Corresponding author: [email protected]

Abstract

In the spring of 2006, 60 naturally infected hens obtained from a broiler-breeder farm in northwest Arkansas were used in a controlled titration study to determine the anthelmintic efficacy of albendazole in the treatment of both nematode and cestode infections. Albendazole was used at the dose rates of 0.0, 5.0, 10.0, and 20.0 mg/kg of BW, with all treatments given individually as an oral suspension on d 0 (split doses) and with necropsies for parasite collection conducted on d 7. There were 15 birds per treatment group. Statistically significant (P < 0.05) reductions in worm burdens from control levels were seen at the 5.0 mg/kg dose level for adult and larval stages of Ascaridia galli, Heterakis gallinarum, and Capillaria obsignata. A significant (P < 0.05) reduction in the numbers of Raillietina cesticillus (scolexes) from control group levels was seen only at the 20.0 mg/kg rate of treatment. For albendazole given at the rates of 5.0, 10.0, and 20.0 mg/kg, respective anthelmintic efficacies based on geometric means were 87.7, 91.2, and 98.2% (A. galli larvae); 100.0, 100.0, and 100.0% (A. galli adults); 96.9, 95.7, and 98.9% (H. gallinarum larvae); 92.7, 95.4, and 94.9% (H. gallinarum adults); 90.3, 91.3, and 95.1% (C. obsignata larvae and adults combined); and 73.1, 73.1, and 96.2% (R. cesticillus). No adverse reactions to albendazole were observed in this study.