Worming questions

[klbaker75]

Weigh the chick on a food scale then dose by weight. Are you going to use Valbazen or Safeguard?

I found this on poultrydvm. I thought you couldn’t use safeguard in water. Would the chicks get the correct dosage just based on how much they drink if I did it in the water?

 

[casportpony]

The poultrydvm site is quite good for some stuff, but *all* of that dosing information is incorrect.

If you want to dose the chicks you can do Safeguard at 0.03 ml per 100 grams for 5 consecutive days, or Valbazen at 0.018 ml per 100 grams for 3 consecutive days.

 

[klbaker75]

The poultrydvm site is quite good for some stuff, but *all* of that dosing information is incorrect.

If you want to dose the chicks you can do Safeguard at 0.03 ml per 100 grams for 5 consecutive days, or Valbazen at 0.018 ml per 100 grams for 3 consecutive days.

Thank you. It is for sure gapeworm. I am doing fecals on the mom and she was only showing 1-4 eggs on slide before I started safeguard. A few hours after and there are probably 30 or more. This is what I have found in the past as well when dealing with gapeworm. As I start to treat them they sense the chemical and start secreting tons of eggs. They had capillaria and were treated for their follow up round April 7-10 and I had a rooster die with mucous in his throat and gurgling April 15. It wasn’t on my radar bc this particular flock hasn’t ever has it. But I moved their yard and it’s apparently in this new yard. So if it’s anything like I’ve experienced in the past then it’s resistant and very tough. I had to get desperate and use eucalyptus oil down the trachea with a long qtip. I can treat the mom but the babies are too little. I know you tube feed small birds with good success. Is it possible for me to get something like this similar accomplished with standard one week old chicks? Is there a way to get to their trachea? I need help brainstorming or I’m going to lose all three of my chicks.

 

[casportpony]

I'm confused. What do you want to do? Tube feeding chicks small chick is possible if you have a size 8 or 10 French tube and Kaytee Exact baby bird food. If you're asking about ways to put eucalyptus oil in the trachea of a chick, that is something I would not recommend.

 

[casportpony]

Is it possible for me to get something like this similar accomplished with standard one week old chicks?

If they are only one week old I think they are too young for gapes.

 

[klbaker75]

I'm confused. What do you want to do? Tube feeding chicks small chick is possible if you have a size 8 or 10 French tube and Kaytee Exact baby bird food. If you're asking about ways to put eucalyptus oil in the trachea of a chick, that is something I would not recommend.

I do realize it sounds a bit off the wall. I fought gapeworm in one hen in a different flock for three long months last summer. Every drug I tried it came back stronger. I did searches on old time remedies and they said the only thing that they found that worked was garlic and also eucalyptus oil on a feather down the throat. I tried garlic but it didn’t help. I couldn’t get a feather down her throat and was desperate bc I knew if I did nothing she would succumb to it. I bought long qtips and put some of it on it. It was liquid. Not like an olive oil consistency. It kills it dead immediately. I have the chicks on garlic and onion water since they won’t eat it. I’ve read the combo is helpful. I’m hoping it will prevent them from getting it. But if not I may only have one chance at getting this.
Yes it is true they are currently too young for it. I’m trying to plan ahead bc I believe it’s the inevitable since the area my adults likely got it from is where my chicks were and they ate an earthworm from that area. It takes exactly seven days from ingestion of larvae for the gapeworm to become an adult and enter into the trachea. The chicks were exposed two days ago. I figure I have less than five days left before they start suffocating. Thanks anyway. I’ll try to figure something out.