Worming While Antibioticing

[Kiki]

You may want to read this one too:
https://www.nap.edu/read/2114/chapter/4
(it was just posted in another thread...about feeding chickens the correct nutrients)

 

[casportpony]

They are roundworms. I haven't noticed any more than one with the eye worm. I'm wondering if a roundworm could somehow find its way into the tear duct

Welcome to BYC! Where do you live?

 

[msuple2]

Properly fed birds can fight off lots of things without medication.
Brewers grains are deficient in several nutrients. Cracked corn makes it worse. Unless you live on pristine forage in a tropical environment, that many birds can quickly deplete all the available animal protein on a range.

Additionally, unless you've had lab work to identify the problem, it may not be a bacteria that tetracycline can cure. It could just as easily be a virus.

How long have you been raising chickens without a complete poultry ration?

I looked into the nutritional content of brewers grain (http://www.csc-world.com/products-c.../products-csc-wet-feeds/nutritional-analysis/) as well as the nutritional needs of laying hens (http://www.csc-world.com/products-c.../products-csc-wet-feeds/nutritional-analysis/) and found that brewers grain is only insufficient in calcium (which is made up for in the oyster shell) and in tryptophan (which I havnt accounted for) I have found studies that also state it insufficient as well as some that say it is sufficient but nobody has ever quantified it in a way that I have myself. Can you specify what brewers grain might be missing with the exception of the above mentioned?

 

[msuple2]

Welcome to BYC! Where do you live?

Houston

 

[msuple2]

I looked into the nutritional content of brewers grain (http://www.csc-world.com/products-c.../products-csc-wet-feeds/nutritional-analysis/) as well as the nutritional needs of laying hens (http://www.csc-world.com/products-c.../products-csc-wet-feeds/nutritional-analysis/) and found that brewers grain is only insufficient in calcium (which is made up for in the oyster shell) and in tryptophan (which I havnt accounted for) I have found studies that also state it insufficient as well as some that say it is sufficient but nobody has ever quantified it in a way that I have myself. Can you specify what brewers grain might be missing with the exception of the above mentioned?

additionally: We feed a chicks a starter and pullets a grower until about 5 months.

 

[msuple2]

Oh ok...I personally never heard of it..
I have no problem reading!
I have plenty of room for learning new things!
Thank you!!

There so much information, i don't think ill even be able to stop learning.

 

[Kiki]

There so much information, i don't think ill even be able to stop learning.

It's wonderful isn't it!

 

[casportpony]

Houston

Call the Texas A & M veterinary diagnostic lab and ask an avian pathologist how common eye worms are in your area. I was under the impression that they were rare.

Pretty sure tetracyline's can be given with most wormers, though you probably dont't want to put more than one medication in the water because they might not want to drink overly medicated water.

 

[msuple2]

It's wonderful isn't it!

That or stressful. Unfortunately most of the learning is a result of "oh crap whats happening?"

 

[casportpony]

As for ivermectin in the eye, yeah, I've also read that on forums, but I haven't seen it written by a truly credible source, like a vet.