Would there be any problems?

[punk-a-doodle]

I wonder how long male dogs would stay unaltered if they smelled like breeding bucks!

 

[donrae]

Thank you! some one who is civil.

How many cats do you have?
The previous poster seemed to think that there were to many cats around when in fact there is our tom cat and the one who adopted us

But there are not a lot running around.
What would some of the effects of inbreeding

We had a female mate back to her father (and he could have been her grandfather, too....they're not picky) and of her 4 kits, two were born with their intestines looped through the outside and died in less than a day. One died of some type of belly bloat at a week. The surviving kit has always had a weird potbelly and truthfully, I'm always nervous about picking her up under her belly! I keep feeling like I'm going to rupture something

When we finally got off our butts and started spaying everyone, I told the vet about her littermates cause I was worried about surgical complications. There weren't any, thank God!


I didn't find anyone offering a group discount, but I did use our local low-cost spay and neuter programs. I got some done for $25 each and some for $40. I just budgeted it and bit the bullet. When my work picked up, I made a nice tax-deductible donation to the spay-neuter program.

 

[jettgirl24]

Well then why did I start this thread?
Because I was worried about inbreeding!

Not about being irresponsible because we don't have our cat fixed!
And do you even have a clue how much it cost to have a female cat spayed and a male.
Not to mention all of those non existing kittens.
And actually we have thought about getting him fixed and hopefully in the future that will happen!
By the way I am not on Craigslist.

I've said my piece but you choose not to comprehend. That's fine. But I would like to say that I do know exactly how much it costs to spay a female cat. We currently have three female cats - two rescues and one formerly feral kitten who was the result of someone else's irresponsibility. The first thing we did was spay them. I also know how much it costs to neuter a male. Someone dumped a male cat on our street, he adopted us, and again the first thing we did was take him to the vet where he was checked out and neutered. We choose not to allow our animals to contribute to the overpopulation of cats and dogs.

 

[Reformed]

. We choose not to allow our animals to contribute to the overpopulation of cats and dogs.

Well that's great for you.

 

[chooniecat]

Sad. I worked years in a huge vet hospital and am very animal loving /knowledgable and people breeding dogs/cats breaks my heart. The kittens are cute. I get it. BUT-ANYONE breeding unnecessarily is creating all of the ferals(1-2 always escape your 'care") and unwanted cats/kittens being killed daily in my local shelter. Thats NOT cute. and I have had to tolerate it. Please get ALL of the cats in your vicinity altered and know that you have actually THEN done a kind thing. I just had to euthanize a young tom that showed up in my barn because I can't afford altering now(did 30+ strays/ferals in the past and will again when I get the funds) and my heart was broken.

 

[Stacykins]

The big question is WHY are you keeping him intact? Because you let him roam, I highly doubt he is some ultra valuable, purebred breeding cat. He's just an average pet.

I know a lot of us are pushy about spaying an neutering. There is a good reason. Some of us volunteer at shelters. We see abandoned kittens and friendly adult cats pour in. My local shelter is sadly, not a no kill. They keep each cat for three months on average, though, far longer than most no kills. But super sweet, loving cats still get euthanized. Why? Someone allowed their cats to produce litter after litter of kittens. And the owner of the tom is just as guilty as the owner of the queen.

When I lived in Milwaukee, I participated in a TNR program. I would trap ferals and strays, and the humane society would spay/neuter, microchip, vaccinate, eat tip, and then give them back to me for release. It didn't stop them from continuing their life as a feral, but it did stop them from increasing their population. Any cats who were friendly enough would be kept by the humane society for adoption (they were no kill, almost exclusively). Any sick cats I brought in were humanely euthanized (there were a few who were FeLV positive, one had a massive tumor). There is also a benefit. The sterilized cats still defend their territory from any other new cats. So a TNR colony experiences a negative growth curve, because the cats aren't reproducing and they are also defending the area from new cats. So it helps reduce the numbers of ferals in an area.

I fed and cared for those released ferals, they always had clean water and a small shelter to get out of the cold, snow, and rain. Because these cats were true ferals, I they'd never trust me. But at least I knew their tummies were full. By the time I left Milwaukee, my little local colony of ferals had all died, and I'd seen no new cats in a long time. You want to know how they died? They were all hit by cars, because I found their bodies on the nearby streets. I just hope it was a quick death, rather than suffering from injuries before perishing.

I also wanted to make a note about FIV and FeLV. Both are viral illnesses that are passed through blood and saliva. And both kill cats. But you want to know how it is usually spread through a cat population? Through fighting tom cats. Toms usually hate other toms with a passion, and during these fights, an infected cat will infect the cat it is fighting with. So you are putting your cat at a huge risk for a deadly illness. All it takes is one wandering, infected tom to scuffle with your boy, and he'll die young.

 

[Chickerdoodle13]

I agree with the other posters. It is very important that people alter their cats if they allow them outside. There are low cost clinics and have a heart traps work very well to catch feral animals. Spay/neuter is one of the easiest surgeries to do and one of the most effective to prevent unwanted babies.

If you can't afford to alter the cats then unfortunately I suggest having them euthanized. I hate seeing it happen, but it prevents a lot of other unhappy animals in the future.

FIV and feline leukemia are very real and very serious problems. It causes a lot of heart ache for owners and a lot of problems for the cats and it is very easily spread to other cats.

It would definitely be easier to get them fixed now (especially since the young female is probably already pregnant, but spaying will fix that too) than waiting and having many more cats that will need fixing. Also, at the same time have the vet give a rabies shot. They are good for three years.

 

[Reformed]

The big question is WHY are you keeping him intact? Because you let him roam, I highly doubt he is some ultra valuable, purebred breeding cat. He's just an average pet.

I know a lot of us are pushy about spaying an neutering. There is a good reason. Some of us volunteer at shelters. We see abandoned kittens and friendly adult cats pour in. My local shelter is sadly, not a no kill. They keep each cat for three months on average, though, far longer than most no kills. But super sweet, loving cats still get euthanized. Why? Someone allowed their cats to produce litter after litter of kittens. And the owner of the tom is just as guilty as the owner of the queen.

When I lived in Milwaukee, I participated in a TNR program. I would trap ferals and strays, and the humane society would spay/neuter, microchip, vaccinate, eat tip, and then give them back to me for release. It didn't stop them from continuing their life as a feral, but it did stop them from increasing their population. Any cats who were friendly enough would be kept by the humane society for adoption (they were no kill, almost exclusively). Any sick cats I brought in were humanely euthanized (there were a few who were FeLV positive, one had a massive tumor). There is also a benefit. The sterilized cats still defend their territory from any other new cats. So a TNR colony experiences a negative growth curve, because the cats aren't reproducing and they are also defending the area from new cats. So it helps reduce the numbers of ferals in an area.

I fed and cared for those released ferals, they always had clean water and a small shelter to get out of the cold, snow, and rain. Because these cats were true ferals, I they'd never trust me. But at least I knew their tummies were full. By the time I left Milwaukee, my little local colony of ferals had all died, and I'd seen no new cats in a long time. You want to know how they died? They were all hit by cars, because I found their bodies on the nearby streets. I just hope it was a quick death, rather than suffering from injuries before perishing.

I also wanted to make a note about FIV and FeLV. Both are viral illnesses that are passed through blood and saliva. And both kill cats. But you want to know how it is usually spread through a cat population? Through fighting tom cats. Toms usually hate other toms with a passion, and during these fights, an infected cat will infect the cat it is fighting with. So you are putting your cat at a huge risk for a deadly illness. All it takes is one wandering, infected tom to scuffle with your boy, and he'll die young.

Well we had our tom cat since he was about six weeks old and he turned four this year.
And was actually supposed to be a house cat but he kept making messes in the house and using the dogs bed as a restroom

And so we eventually put him outside and we never had him fixed, but the subject has been brought up and I hope to talk to my Dad about getting him fixed.
So hopefully that will take place soon.