Yellow x red golden pheasant

[Midnightman14]

Where did yellow goldens come from pure goldens right so?

Yes the darkthroat, cinnamon, yellow, and splash goldens are all documented to have come out of pure birds. The peach, flame, and silver are all unknown but since the silver golden mutated out of yellow goldens they're a safe bet.

 

[007Sean]

Well, if she is still laying in a month from now, and she has bred with the Yellow Golden male...try hatching her eggs and see what color the chicks are that are produced.

 

[007Sean]

Yes the darkthroat, cinnamon, yellow, and splash goldens are all documented to have come out of pure birds. The peach, flame, and silver are all unknown but since the silver golden mutated out of yellow goldens they're a safe bet.

The peach are sorta unknown but it is thought to have come from a cinnamon x yellow golden or a dark throated golden? I know some peeps back breed to a dark throated to get a deeper 'peach' color on the males cape.
Same with Silver Goldens, no one is sure how they were developed but it is thought to be a true mutation. And the cinnamon color Silvers are thought to have Yellow Golden in their background.

 

[Midnightman14]

The peach are sorta unknown but it is thought to have come from a cinnamon x yellow golden or a dark throated golden? I know some peeps back breed to a dark throated to get a deeper 'peach' color on the males cape.
Same with Silver Goldens, no one is sure how they were developed but it is thought to be a true mutation. And the cinnamon color Silvers are thought to have Yellow Golden in their background.

I talked with James pfarr about the genetics behind silver vs. yellow and he thinks they're just a dilute form of YG's So to have a silver you'd need to either breed to another silver or a YG carrying the dilute gene.

 

[007Sean]

I talked with James pfarr about the genetics behind silver vs. yellow and he thinks they're just a dilute form of YG's So to have a silver you'd need to either breed to another silver or a YG carrying the dilute gene.

Along those lines, I have several Yellow Goldens (juveniles) that instead of the dark brown/black feathers on the back, they are laced like the cape feathers and the same color as the cape....I have no idea where it's coming from or from where it would get that coloration/gene? None of my parent stock have shown it in their offspring until now, some of the birds are 11 and 12 years old.
ETA: pics taken this morning. The color is more orange in person.

Sibling to the male above, same age, same parent stock.

 

[007Sean]

Here's a pic of a supposedly Silver Golden, eggs forsale on e-Bay. To me it's pretty obvious it is a dilute Yellow Golden!

 

[Midnightman14]

Those odd ball birds might be something new.

 

[007Sean]

Those odd ball birds might be something new.

Could be? I'm incubating more eggs now, so I'll see if it's just a 'one off' or something else! Have 3 cabinet bators running with Peach, Red, Yellow Goldens and Persian Ringnecked eggs. 1 cabinet has nothing but Yellow Golden eggs.

 

[Feathergardens]

They would all look phenotypically 100% Red Golden, even though they are carrying 1 copy of the genes responsible for the Yellow Golden genotype. The Red Golden genes are dominate and the Yellow Golden genes are recessive. If you took the hens and back bred them to a yellow male, then you would get yellow offspring.
Oh, please don't sell the offspring of that pairing....eventhough, they look Red Golden, they are not and it would just further dilute the pure Red Golden lines.

I am wondering something similar, but I only have my red golden x red golden. I however have a yellow golden male and a peach golden hen. With both of these being mutations, would the offapring revert to wild type or are the mutations ones that would give offspring of the same mutations...is one dominant over the other? Also with these both being mutations is it frowned upon to attemp this breeding?

 

[007Sean]

I am wondering something similar, but I only have my red golden x red golden. I however have a yellow golden male and a peach golden hen. With both of these being mutations, would the offapring revert to wild type or are the mutations ones that would give offspring of the same mutations...is one dominant over the other? Also with these both being mutations is it frowned upon to attemp this breeding?

Both have recessive genes. You'd most likely get a Yellow/Peach splash, similar to this one. This was a Yellow male, Peach female pairing. As long as you don't sell them as pure Peach or Yellows, no harm is done.