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Wow and I just got them from another chicken hobby type farmer. But he had many different kinds including silkies and barred rock types, is there anyway to save the big dopey bird? Should I put him on a diet or make him work harder to get food. He does not walk around and eat grass or bugs like the others. I'll google it too. Thanks
 
Book said:
I know many are not taking this salmonella outbreak with Mt. Healthy seriously but I feel like my family needs to. Most of our birds came from them this spring and I got very sick for near 2 weeks a bit ago. I wish I had gone in to be tested.....

Anyway, does anyone know a vet that can test at least a few of my birds near Thomson/Augusta?

We have small kids and like a dumb *** we have had these birds all over the house and free range the yard.

*** would TSC sell birds from a hatchery that has had this outbreak the last 2 years (now three?).

Not all birds have salmonella and in other countries they out and out cull flocks that do. In out country (because of costs!) We try to treat when we process meat with chemical washes! That doesn't really work for a family back yard flock. Unlike commercial farms (they wear suits when dealing with the chickens and masks) they don't LIVE with the chickens. We need healthy flocks.... With untreatable salmonella the common cures are not going to work! All the ****** industrial farming and anti-botics have caused super bugs.

I should have researched where our TSC gets chicks. If I have known Mt. Healthy had outbreaks this last few years I would never have gotten them.

I have health issues.... I catch everything. I am worried about my kids. We got chickens for HEALTHY eggs, better than what the industrial farms sell. Look what I have done..... I brought what I was trying to avoid right into the house. I feel so foolish.
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Just remember all animals not just chickens and ducks can carry lots of different bugs, salmonella is very common with all birds, I have worked with pet birds from all over the world for over 15 years and as long as u take the neesery precations there is no major health threat(if u have a weekend immune system then it is a different story). Wash your hands every time u touch a bird or any thing that is in your birds living area. clean floors inside with any antibacterial soap, (Pine sol, Bleach, Ect) Any time the birds are running around in the house, Do not let birds or any other animals in to your cooking and eating areas. These out breaks happen every year no matter what. it is more that u have lots of people new to having bird around than it is that there is something wrong with the birds. dont worry to much and enjoy them they are only little once.
 
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Book said:
I know many are not taking this salmonella outbreak with Mt. Healthy seriously but I feel like my family needs to. Most of our birds came from them this spring and I got very sick for near 2 weeks a bit ago. I wish I had gone in to be tested.....

Anyway, does anyone know a vet that can test at least a few of my birds near Thomson/Augusta?

We have small kids and like a dumb *** we have had these birds all over the house and free range the yard.

*** would TSC sell birds from a hatchery that has had this outbreak the last 2 years (now three?).

Not all birds have salmonella and in other countries they out and out cull flocks that do. In out country (because of costs!) We try to treat when we process meat with chemical washes! That doesn't really work for a family back yard flock. Unlike commercial farms (they wear suits when dealing with the chickens and masks) they don't LIVE with the chickens. We need healthy flocks.... With untreatable salmonella the common cures are not going to work! All the ****** industrial farming and anti-botics have caused super bugs.

I should have researched where our TSC gets chicks. If I have known Mt. Healthy had outbreaks this last few years I would never have gotten them.

I have health issues.... I catch everything. I am worried about my kids. We got chickens for HEALTHY eggs, better than what the industrial farms sell. Look what I have done..... I brought what I was trying to avoid right into the house. I feel so foolish.
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Well, I don't, because I'm not one of those people who catches everything (like you do). So very rarely do I get sick from something like that. I also tend to over-expose myself to everything. That comes from being in the Army for six years, and realizing that the food that touched the ground MAY be the only food you're going to get! When you don't get sick from that (and actually seem healthier after doing it), you overexpose yourself just to build your own immunity.

But not everyone is lucky like that either. And those who aren't, do need to take extra precautions. That's why I blame Mt. Healthy for not doing enough to educate THEIR customers. However, I did find the link to the story on the TSC website. So TSC does tend to pass things along, although too late in this case. Their link is the one that goes directly to the CDC website, and I don't see anything on the Mt. Healthy Hatchery website about this issue.

Again, Mt. Healthy is to blame for that part.

I'm sorry you're going through it though. And I hope your kids are going to be okay as well. Just make sure they wash their hands after handling the birds, and before touching their own food, or putting their hands near their mouth.
 

I suspect my CCLs are reaching the end of their laying cycle. I collected this egg today. It has a little mud on it from the sloppy conditions this weekend. I have been told that this is a sign that they
are about to stop laying. The odd thing is that while this egg has warts some of the others were porous.


Today is day 21 for 11 CCLs, 5 have already hatched, 1 pipped and 5 still waiting.
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debdancing said:
This maybe a repeat . I thought I sent it already! I have mixed chicks but they are at 10 weeks now and one is so big he can hardly move. He sits down to eat. He's quite a bit bigger than the others of the same age. Is this a breed or an aberration? All white red comb huge legs and feet!
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It sounds like you got Cornish Rocks - the crossbred meant for meat. They are known to grow EXTREMELY fast, have very thick legs, and can't breed naturally. So while you may have one or two that lay eggs later on, the entire purpose of that breed, is to be slaughtered for meat at just 8-12 weeks old.
 
Book said:
Last night before I knew about the outbreak I let the kids play with the ducks ALL through the house..... If anyone gets sick, it is all my fault.





I had my husband go out and buy bleach.... we never have that in the house. We try to use natural, healthy, organic everything. Not playing around with this though. It isn't worth it.

I have to find a way to get these birds tested. I will not be allowing anyone over, I will not risk anyone getting sick.
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First and foremost, stop blaming yourself. It's Mt. Healthy's fault, NOT yours. Like I just mentioned in the last reply I made to you, they aren't doing enough to educate THEIR customers. They don't even have anything about it on their website. Even TSC's link went to the CDC site, not Mt. Healthy's site.

Second, just make sure everyone washes their hands. For salmonella, soap and water are your best friends. For the floor, simply mopping with actual soap and water will work. As for getting your birds tested, I don't know of anyone in that area. But if you happen to have one die, I know you can mail a pre-frozen carcass to the Georgia Poultry Lab, and they'll do a necropsy for free to test for diseases. Look into the CDC though. Maybe they have the option available somewhere to help actually pinpoint the source of the strain of the outbreak. I didn't own birds while I lived in Augusta though, so I don't know anyone around there that treats birds. Columbia County animal shelter may have the name of one or two.
 
Flowerbh said:
Sounds like you may have a Cornish rock. They are bred to grow extremely fast for eating. At 8 weeks old, they are so big they can no longer walk. They are usually processed by this time. Many die of a heart attack by the time it is 3 months old. You may want to google them and see if that is what you have.
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I think I just quoted you almost word-for-word before even reading this, lol!
 
debdancing said:
Perfect match ! Cornish rock!! More like chicken monster! So will he survive if I change his feeding behavior?
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He'll probably survive a long time... if food and water are next to him. It's just the way they are bred. They get so big that their skeletal system can't support them anymore.
 

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