Zimectin and ?

[chrys64moore]

So, just wormed my BO yesterday (for tapes and roundworms) with Zimectin, but I don't think I used enough (I gave a BB-sized amount but, like, a really small BB 'cause that's what I remembered from childhood, which was admittedly a super-long time ago). Now I find out that I should have used a pea-sized amount. If I don't see some worm-action in a few days, is there something else I can give? I know, I know---should have tried to figure out and measure exact dosage...

Christine

 

[casportpony]

Plain - ole - ivermectin won't treat tapes, and roundworms are showing resistance to it. For tapes you need something with Praziquantel in it, like Zimectrin Gold or Equimax. For all other worms you need something like Safeguard (fenbendazole) or Valbazen (albendazole).

The following are doses to treat *tapes* in a *five* pound chicken.
Zimecterin Gold - 0.3 ml (dose is 0.06 ml per pound)
Equimax - 0.16 ml (dose is 0.033 ml per pound)

Equimax (14.03% praziquantel) has almost twice as much Praziquantel as Zimectrin Gold (7.75% praziquantel), so that's why you use about half as much. Make sense?

FYi, a pea sized amount is about 0.25 ml (1/4 cc).

-Kathy

 

[dawg53]

So, just wormed my BO yesterday (for tapes and roundworms) with Zimectin, but I don't think I used enough (I gave a BB-sized amount but, like, a really small BB 'cause that's what I remembered from childhood, which was admittedly a super-long time ago). Now I find out that I should have used a pea-sized amount. If I don't see some worm-action in a few days, is there something else I can give? I know, I know---should have tried to figure out and measure exact dosage...

Christine

Did you actually see tapeworm segments in feces? That's a sure sign of tapeworms, otherwise you'd never know they had them unless a fecal sample was submitted for testing. If your BO is an adult hen, a regular "pea" sized amount of zimectrin gold given orally will kill tapeworms. Make sure you redose again in 10 days.
I agree with Casportpony, it would be best to worm your other birds with valbazen or safeguard. Redose your BO hen in 20 days to kill other types of worms. OR you could redose all your birds in 10 days with valbazen, including your BO hen, rather than using z-gold on the tenth day.

 

[Michael Apple]

So, just wormed my BO yesterday (for tapes and roundworms) with Zimectin, but I don't think I used enough (I gave a BB-sized amount but, like, a really small BB 'cause that's what I remembered from childhood, which was admittedly a super-long time ago). Now I find out that I should have used a pea-sized amount. If I don't see some worm-action in a few days, is there something else I can give? I know, I know---should have tried to figure out and measure exact dosage...

Christine

If tapeworms are a problem in your area, you may seek to acquire some L-Vermizol Poultry Wormer tabs to keep in the cabinet. It is broad spectrum and has 25 mg of Praziquantel each tab.

 

[casportpony]

Quote: That looks like a good wormer!

-Kathy

 

[Michael Apple]

That looks like a good wormer!

-Kathy

Aranda & Tornel put out good products.

 

[casportpony]

Quote: I like the idea of a broard-spectrum wormer that also has praziquantel in it.

-Kathy

 

[dawg53]

I wont use a wormer with praziquantel in it unless the birds actually have tapeworms.

 

[Michael Apple]

I wont use a wormer with praziquantel in it unless the birds actually have tapeworms.

Right. No need to. I've found Albendazole generally works fine for my environment. I haven't seen tapes for many years.

 

[dawg53]

Quote:
Tapes are a real pain to get rid of. My previous birds were eating tapeworm egg infected insects while free ranging. Valbazen worked great at first, but eventually required higher individual doses to be effective. That's when I used z-gold on them. The good thing about tapes is that maybe only one or two birds might be the only ones that get infected out of the whole flock. But you have to follow each bird around looking at feces for telltale segments. Then isolate the culprits in a cage and treat them individually. It worked great... if you dont mind following 23 birds around for a couple of hours eyeballing poop lol. BTW; early morning is best to follow them around, they always take a good dump after their first feeding.
Here's a couple of caged criminals getting the tapeworm treatment: