OVER THE COUNTER MEDICATIONS (OTC) IMPACTED BY NEW FDA PRESCRIPTION REQUIREMENTS INITIATIVE

[casportpony]

Anyone want to see some culture and sensitivity reports?

-Kathy

 

[shortgrass]

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Glad we have a vet on board!  Welcome!

Chicken people have not used vets much for a couple of reasons.

A.)  Vets don't see the investment in boning up on poultry paying off (unless as stated they have personal interest) so most don't see poultry and/or really know how to treat them.
B.)  It's been hard for common back yard flocks to justify the expense of a vet bill - unless a treasured pet or rare exoctic 
C.)  It's a little different dragging a flock to a vet to be seen and only large animal vets tend to make "house" calls.  
D.)  Most vet meds were available OTC so people just pretty much winged it themselves.
E.)  Many became "self" taught and have more expertise than most vets - but usually not access to equipment and labs.

Game changed.

Vets will have more incentive as more poultry people will be seeking professional services.
Unless willing and able to take on the expense of a hi$ avian specialists who you can expect to have all the answers,
going to need to expect a learning curve and best to educate your self for a collaborative effort.
The need to establish a good working relationship with a vet, after you find one willing to do so, is critical.  
Need to start doing the leg work for that now and not wait for a half dead chicken emergency to scramble.

So, we need to start networking to get vets in our areas identified that will work with poultry people.  Start making phone calls to vet offices in your area and ask to speak with the vet about it. Maybe best to start with large animal vets/farm vets if there are any in the area.  Next best would be if the vet has poultry themselves.   Be prepared to explain the situation and the need in your area.  If you have a number of people identified that would use them IF they would work with poultry its going to provide more incentive than a solo request.  Even better if your transfer your "regular" pet care to them too.  Remember, they have a living to make, office overhead and only so much time in a day. 
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X2, good incentive

There's no reason that fecals can't be run at almost any clinic; we send ours out to a laboratory, with species listed, and get results the next day.  Talk to your local veterinarian about possible care for your birds, and find someone who will take an interest.  Somebody with chickens would be great.  Most of us are pretty busy, and trying to keep current for more than a couple of species is hard!  Also, a client who wants free advise on the phone, and to buy meds for animals not brought in to the clinic, doesn't offer much incentive for the veterinarian to study up on that species.  I'm in a busy small animal practice, and have seen THREE chickens in the last year, total.  If it weren't for my interest in my own flock, I wouldn't have cared to see them either.  Mary

Lol I can totally see the problem... Of our two large animal vets, one would say "I don't like chickens", but he'll still try to help... The other one will really only help if its going to be " fun", a mystery to solve... He lives for helping with weird stuff just for fun, but he charges for his brain.. Hefty brain, hefty bill

And they just send the stuff straight to CSU anyway lol

 

[rnchick74]

Anyone want to see some culture and sensitivity reports?

-Kathy

YES!!!

To answer the previous question...I'm very lucky that I can take samples & culture them. Sensitivity is a little harder to do, but not impossible.

 

[EdenCamp]

Anyone want to see some culture and sensitivity reports?

-Kathy

Absolutely!!!!!!!!!

 

[casportpony]

This is one from a deceased duckling that I had necropsied at CAHFS lab. The point of posting this is so people can see how tricky it can be picking an effective antibiotic for a food animal.



-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

These might be easier to see:

 

[casportpony]

Quote: So cool that you can do that! We're planning on setting up a lab in our spare bedroom and hope someday to be doing out own fecal, gram stains, cultures and sensitivities. DH is one of those scary smart types, so I'm hoping he'll be able to teach me.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Here's another report:


-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

The second report is from a bird with a respiratory infection.

-Kathy

 

[EdenCamp]

That's wild how resistant strains can be!