Poulin Grain??

[TalkALittle]

Poulin is a good feed. I used it for a while until I switched only because I now go to a feed store closer to me that carries a different brand.

Poulin has a good turkey/gamebird starter that I still will buy in the fall to add to my girls feed during their molt.

 

[ShrekDawg]

Thanks for info on it! That's good to know it's a good feed and makes me feel better ha

I'll keep the gamebird feed in mind too for fall

 

[Noreaster Egger]

Wow really? That's so interesting.

Now I'm confused and conflicted on what to do because I've heard it's bad but also now good

I think the soy thing is a correlation rather than causation. People eating soy tend to eat other healthier foods too. I avoid soy like the plague except I'll have some fermented natto once in a blue moon for the vitamin K2. Soy is loaded with phytoestrogens which can increase breast cancer risk in women and give men more feminine characteristics.

 

[oldhenlikesdogs]

I think the soy thing is a correlation rather than causation. People eating soy tend to eat other healthier foods too. I avoid soy like the plague except I'll have some fermented natto once in a blue moon for the vitamin K2. Soy is loaded with phytoestrogens which can increase breast cancer risk in women and give men more feminine characteristics.

This I will disagree with. As a person who eats soy and has had an estrogen based cancer the belief that soy mimics estrogen isn't true. Plant based components aren't the same as animal based. I eat soy without fear because it isn't true. If it was it would have put an end to these dang hot flashes.

 

[Noreaster Egger]

We'll agree to disagree then...which is fine.

 

[Noreaster Egger]

Back to the topic of feed though...

I don't think soy-based feed is that bad. I remember reading a blog post from Mark Sisson about this a few years ago. I'll have to see if I can find it. The soy-fed hens had higher amounts of the soy found in the yolks, but it paled in comparison to that found in soy products. I believe he was more concerned about the excessive omega-6 PUFAs in the feed rather than the soy. Most soy-free feeds have a lot of corn in them anyway. If you're going the lower O-6 route you'll want something without corn and soy as a base and higher in omega 3's and 9's.

I actually give my birds the soy feed for their ferment. The dry pellets (which they eat little of) is the soy-free layer feed from Green Mountain Feeds. I'd love to make a feed minimizing the O-6 content, but it's too cost prohibitive for me right now to make up my own feed. I give them some occasional coconut and sardines to lean the yolk nutrient profile more where I want it.

 

[Noreaster Egger]

Found it.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/soy-...y-acifiying-meditative-state-preventing-meat/

 

[oldhenlikesdogs]

Thank you, I found that extremely informative. Everything in moderation whether human or chicken.

 

[Egghead_Jr]

Anybody have experience with Poulin Grain?

Our local feed store switched to this brand recently.

I didn't know that because I haven't been there in a few months cause I was buying Flock Raiser from TSC for winter so I go back to buy Hearty Hen from Nutrena and they tell me.

They say it's just as good or better than Hearty Hen and a family friend (who happens to be the manager there) feeds it to his chickens and the eggs are great so I decided to try it. Looking at the bag, it does look just as good. 18 percent protein, soy free, similar price, everything I want lol

But I'm more just looking for opinions or personal experience.

It's called Egg Production Plus.

Here's the bag.

It's milled in Newport, VT not 30 minutes from where I currently live. I like it. It's a long time family run mill. If your read the tags of a lot of their poultry products you'll be seeing the same thing. I honestly believe they've one mix for over 50% of products and use different bags as people "feel" they need a special blend for this bird. It's funny as I agree with Poulin and use Turkey finisher for my all flock feed in pellet form. 20% protein and in pellet. When we have chicks the entire flock goes to non medicated chick starter/grower which is 20% protein and in crumble form. And of course if you read the label on meat bird bags it's 20% protein....LOL

I like the feed.

 

[Egghead_Jr]

https://www.poulingrain.com/products/200

This is the Producer + analysis. Looks to be a really good feed. If that's what folks are buying then stick with it as freshness has impact on analysis. Feed degrades somewhat quickly.