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[Wyorp Rock]

is there a thread about this

Start another - there are 3, but are going dead - need to get them going again.
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[doubleleft]

Anyone heard of "Black Hackle" games from Pennsylvania? Supposedly from the cocker family the Elises.

The name sounds y vaguely familiar,(sound interesting) what do you know about them?

 

[sdm111]

you need to get yourself a nice Henry lever action. Lol

that would be nice. I enjoy my 17 the most. But 223 is right there with it. The only range decently close to me closed down I think they selling it. Everything else is indoor.

 

[sdm111]

The name sounds y vaguely familiar,(sound interesting) what do you know about them?

welcome back

 

[centrarchid]

welcome back

Bucking for a greeter award. Bar lowered for game fowl people to be nice only 3 times. Note no game fowl people have been awarded.

 

[sdm111]

No just welcoming back a friend

 

[centrarchid]

No just welcoming back a friend

That is more honorable.

 

[YdogsflY]

The name sounds y vaguely familiar,(sound interesting) what do you know about them?

Not much. Supposedly famous fowl in the mid to late 1800's. Elise family used them around Philly area and were the standout strain in the state. I don't know if they were just in the philly area or if they spread through the state at that time.

Can't find much about them, but did find this.

"In this main the Elise Black Hackles suffered defeat as Mr. Eslin won this main, and as did all his mains. After the main Mr. elise presented Mr. Eslin with his choice of the cocks, as he admired the great gameness displayed by them. With his own Irish Brown Reds and the Elise cock Mr. Eslin made a new strain. During this time the Bellyse fowl gained their name of Black Hackle due to the Pyle blood introduced into the "Crow Alleys" suddenly became active, in obedience to the inexorable laws of atavism. The Pyle under the white covering would be jet black, hence the name of Black Hackle. Pat Carroll fed the Dr. Bellye strain for Jarvis Elise.

In 1884 Mr James Eslin presented my friend Andrew P O'Conor a red neck Black hen of his Eslin Brown Red and Jarvis Elise Black hackle family. In 1887 Mr O'Conor bred this hen to her brother and a hen from this mating was bred in 1889 to the cock he secured from pat Carroll, pure Black hackle, and created his Rock Hill family, which were nearly pure Black Hackle. My present strain descend from this mating."

"The States have been famous for strains as follows:
Georgia—Shawlnecks, Grists, Warhorses.
South Carolina–Rhetts, Morgans, Bacons, Warhorses,
Mugwumps, Chappels.
Alabama–Claibornes (or Mobiles).
Kentucky–Dominiques and Blues.
New York—Kearney's White Hackles, Genet Pyles,
Gingers.
New Jersey–Morgan's White Hackles.
Arkansas–Travelers.
Mississippi–Allen's Round Heads.
North Carolina—Arrington Stone Fences.
Maryland—Shawlnecks, Baltimore Muffs and Top
Knots and Greys.
District of Columbia—Redhorses and Redduills.
Virginia—Redhorses ond White Hackles.
Pennsylvania—Black Hackles.
California—Japs.
Tennessee–Huddlestons.
Massachusetts—Casey's Roundheads and Stone Irish.
Indiana—Trans-Atlantics.
It is safe to assert that the Union was stocked with fowl
from this list of States, which seem to have been peculiarly
favored in giving birth to strains of extraordinary merit.
Among these, South Carolina, Georgia and Alabama at
the South, and New York, Pennsylvania and the District
of Columbia in the more Northerly sections."

 

[doubleleft]

Thanks, that's very interesting information. It's amazing to see what bloodlines actually made our fowl today.

 

[centrarchid]

I would like to seem some pics of what are considered Elise Black Hackles. Those names can be more descriptive than first realized.