The American Paint Silkie

Just as some styles and colours of clothing are more fashionable one season than another, so it goes with breeds and varieties.  However, I haven't really noticed folks getting out of paints...


One of the reasons I read was it was proving to challenging to get good paint patterns on a sq bird. I'm all for a challenge though LOL. What are some of the breeding goals of the paint silkies? Colorwise? I know the basics of silkie show standards. Also are they even showable?
They are darling and the ones I've hatched are so sweet and pretty.
 
I know I will repeat some information in previous posts so bear with me. This is a long thread so it would not hurt repeating the information.

Paints are a heterozygous dominant white or only carry one dominant white gene. Under the white they are most likely extended black at the E locus. Birds can be black and carry another allele at the E locus but from what I can gather from the posts they are extended black.

I have worked with dominant white for years and it is a quirky gene. You are not going to get the same pattern of black markings in each bird because of the nature of the dominant white gene. I have even had heterozygous birds that were a very light gray color over the entire body.

You would only want to breed paint to paint or paint to black. Breeding paints to variates that carry gold would cause problems. The problems would be buff or red and black spots on a white ground color.

Here is an example of a red and black paint. You would get this color pattern if a person were to breed a black tailed red to a paint and then did some additional crossing with the offspring.


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Here is an example of a paint.


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To produce a paint, the breeder wants a solid black bird under the white- that is why it is best to breed paint to paint or black to paint. If a person were to breed to a partridge this would introduce the gold gene to the offspring. The paints would start to show buff colors on the breast, head and neck in the females and the males would start to look similar to a red pyle.

Any red or red shades ( buff etc. ) would begin to leak through the white. You could get strong spots of red or the red will sometimes appear as smear of red on white( best way I can explain the color).


If a person is dealing with dominant white the following ratios apply to the crossings. To get the ratios you would have to hatch a large number of chicks. I believe some one posted this earlier but I am going to post the information again.

Black X paint = 50% black and 50% paint with a few solid white

paint X paint = 25% white, 25% black and 50% paint You will most likely get a higher percentage of white because some heterozygous dominant white birds can be solid white. This of course would decrease the percentage of paints.


If red begins to show in the paints- back cross the paint to black to eliminate the red in future offspring.


Tim
Looking at this post from 2011. Does this info still stand true for breeding the paints, or have folks discovered something else with these guys? This was very helpful, it really answered the questions I had!
 
Okay then 177 pages later, My brain is officially mush
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I'm going to post some pics of the paints I have here in a bit. If folks could share their opinions with me on them I would be very grateful. the reason I'm flip flopping on this is I love the porcelains and lavs. I am limited on space and will have to build a new pin LOL. So far though, I am really loving these too.
 
I snapped a few pics of my chicks that hatched from paint eggs. I have a question about the bright white one. At first I thought sh/he was going to be a plain white, then I noticed she/he has some lovely silvery gray in her wings. Does anyone know what this could be? Maybe not paint, but I think its very pretty :)

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And here's a close-up of the white ones wing. She came out of the shell this silvery brilliant white color, where the other ones were yellow white chicks :)
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I snapped a few pics of my chicks that hatched from paint eggs. I have a question about the bright white one. At first I thought sh/he was going to be a plain white, then I noticed she/he has some lovely silvery gray in her wings. Does anyone know what this could be? Maybe not paint, but I think its very pretty
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And here's a close-up of the white ones wing. She came out of the shell this silvery brilliant white color, where the other ones were yellow white chicks
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Awesome!
That was kind of what I was wondering. When this one hatched out I had never seen a chick that white! This chicks down was almost glowing white when contrasted to his/her skin which is jet black.
The other two paints hatched out with the yellowish white down and black spots. No spots on this one yet, just some random silver-gray feathers on his/her wings. I'm guessing she/he will likely be white, but I'm really excited to see how this baby grows and feathers out.
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Thank You!
 
One of the reasons I read was it was proving to challenging to get good paint patterns on a sq bird. I'm all for a challenge though LOL. What are some of the breeding goals of the paint silkies? Colorwise? I know the basics of silkie show standards. Also are they even showable?
They are darling and the ones I've hatched are so sweet and pretty.
 

Great! I wasn't sure. Showing is something I would love to try to get into. Right now I'm working on building a good breeding flock from some various breeders. I was wanting to focus on porcelains and lavs. Some of the eggs I've ordered were with paint eggs too. I'm actually growing very attached to these three. Once I know the sex of these, ill know whether or not I have another pen to build lol
 

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