respiratory thing and a MASSIVE eye swelling

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Some of you may remember I've been asking about what to do with a flock that most likely has CRD. They have been sneezy for about 2 weeks now, but they don't seem really sick, except for one poor hen who started with some nasal discharge (which most of them don't have) that has progressed into an amazing amount of swelling and leakage. I searched and searched on this forum for eye stuff, and there is lots of it, but there doesn't seem to be a picture of something of this magnitude! We're calling her 'two face'.

Right side:
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Left side:
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They're on duramycin right now but nothing else. I called my dad (an equine vet) and asked if I should put polysporin in her eye and he said because the fluid is clear it probably wouldn't help.

Has anyone seen anything like this?
 
Can you get your vet to do a swab of your chickens and send it off for a culture and sensitivity and just get the guessing over with for ya?

Yes given your flock history I'd say it's another case of respiratory illness.
 
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I am dealing with the same thing here as well. Not so much the eye swelling anymore, but still runny noses and sneezing. I was told to use terramycin for the eyes. I have no idea as to what exactly to do anymore. I can't bring them to get tested at the moment bc school starts very soon...and it is gonna cost me $150 and a good hr drive to do so.
 
I just had the antibiotic discussion with my vet and he said that, because tetracycline has been around so long, it's pretty well useless. Everything is now resistant to it. He recommended that we use Tylan, and if that doesn't solve the problem, he will prescribe baytril for us. For respiratory problems, we have used Tylan with very good results. But it does depend on what you are dealing with and culturing the bug is always, by far, the best approach.
 
Fowl pox looks very similar to your pic as well!
May want to check into that. There is a vaccine for it, but no cure. It just has to run it's corse and hope for the best. There are 2 forms, wet ( internal) and dry (external) They are transmitted by mosquito bites, and can cause nodules all over the head, swelling, pus, sneezing , ect, real nasty!
As for the CRD. There are tons of water soluable meds for it in poultry supply places. Try
www.jeffers.com
look under the poultry meds section, and just start reading the usuages till you find what you need.
True too, a vey wpuld narrow your search for cause down way quicker though!
Good luck,
Aubrey
 
Thanks for your replies!

Threehorses: definitely a good idea, but my vet does not do chickens. I can call around and see if another vet around here would do that for me and how much it would cost. Really, I'm just riding it out for now, I don't foresee any deaths unless it gets worse. As my husband said, 'they'll either die or they won't'.

Chickenlittle: Did you see swelling of this magnitude? It's insane! I can't believe she's eating!
 
Always rinse the eye and then, after a few minutes of it draining, use Terramycin ointment in the eye.

Honestly if you want to treat for respiratory, I'd recommend trying Tylan injectable. Without knowing exactly what bacteria is causing it, it's one of your best choices.

If you smell something very nasty in that eye/nose drainage of any birds with respiratory (not injury) = usually coryza (susceptible to Tylan)
If you see mucus and slobber from their beaks = usually pasteurella (especially with neck twisting - suspectible to Sulmet)
Otherwise, it could be a number of other things. Bubbling in the eyes usually indicates one of the mycoplasma diseases but not necessarily as a rule. But there are more than ONE kind of mycoplasma. There's MG, and then there's at least there other kinds - more commonly Mycoplasma synoviae. MG and MS are supposed to be susceptible to Tylan.

Tylan is best given by injection as Tylan50 in the breast muscle - a different spot each injection, 3 days. It may cause a little muscle burn but it's much less deadly than a respitory illness. Please let us know, if you yourself choose to use a medicine like Tylan, if you need a dosage.

Again - in ALL of these cases it's best that a vet (any vet) do a simple swab and send it off for a culture and sensitivity. In a C&S, they grow the bacteria on a plate that has antibiotic discs. They identify the bacteria - exactly ... no guessing - by name. The discs around which the bacteria don't grow are the antibiotics to which the bacteria are susceptible - the antibiotic of choice.

Also, always give full nutrition to these birds. Use probiotics daily during any illness. Yogurt if you aren't using a -mycin or -cycline med (read the active ingredients in the label). Otherwise please use either Probios dispersible powder from the feedstore, or acidophilius capsules from the vitamin section of the drug store. All probiotics are best given in a quickly eaten damp mash - a tiny amount so you make sure they all get it.

Also consider using VetRx to swab all the nares (nostrils) of the birds, swab the roof of each beak, etc. This helps open airways, facilitate breathing, and possibly reduce inflammation.

A bird that can't breathe won't eat; a bird that won't eat won't live. So faciliate their breathing.
 
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Is there an antibiotic that could be used for any type of respiratory problem? That would treat anything it could be. My DH opened up a few last night and compared to pics I found on the internet about MG it looks nothing like it. (of course I could be wrong) Please forgive me for hijacking your post jeza...
 

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