Here is a long rant, please will someone correct me!!!
This is the article I read, also the link here : http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/PS030 (where I received my information from for this article, yet read many others including talking to my Veterinarian)
This is the article I read, also the link here : http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/PS030 (where I received my information from for this article, yet read many others including talking to my Veterinarian)
"WHY VACCINATE?
Vaccination is an effective means to prevent and/or reduce the adverse effects of specific diseases in poultry. Poultry refers to birds that people keep for their use, and generally includes chicken, turkey, duck, goose, quail, pheasant, pigeon, guinea fowl, pea fowl, ostrich, emu and rhea.
Disease-causing organisms can be classified, smallest to largest, as viruses, mycoplasma, bacteria, fungi, protozoa, and parasites. All these organisms are susceptible to chemotherapy, except viruses. Control of viral diseases is dependent upon prevention through sanitation and bio security, and by vaccination.
Strict sanitation and bio security are essential for successful poultry production. Vaccination is no substitute for effective management. It must be understood that vaccines may be effective in reducing clinical disease, but exposed birds, in most cases, still become infected and shed disease organisms. "
After reading the above article, bio-security is great, but when we purchase a battery hen or a commercial bird from a reputable farm, bringing them into our flock, even though their quarantine of 30 days is up, they still will carry these organisms such as virus, mycoplasma, bacteria, fungal, protozoa and parasites , then when we are placing them into our own bio-secure flock, that is not truly bio-secure. Now our home flock has become exposed to the preventative injection that the industry has given to prevent their loss!
So as we speak of how some of these health issues are horrible, you must euthanize and test our small time stock or breeding birds, then tearfully go exterminate, burn and clean our buildings- in which any particle of dust, the ground that we had their pens on or water run off from is contaminated. Even at 50 feet away from said building and dressing piles/fields will be contaminated for no idea how long. If we place chicks back on the old site, they will more or less be infected and carry the same ailments that our once beautiful culled flock carried, spread or purchase a piece of property with a pre-existing contaminate, we will have our own loss over and over again.
Vaccination is an effective means to prevent and/or reduce the adverse effects of specific diseases in poultry. Poultry refers to birds that people keep for their use, and generally includes chicken, turkey, duck, goose, quail, pheasant, pigeon, guinea fowl, pea fowl, ostrich, emu and rhea.
Disease-causing organisms can be classified, smallest to largest, as viruses, mycoplasma, bacteria, fungi, protozoa, and parasites. All these organisms are susceptible to chemotherapy, except viruses. Control of viral diseases is dependent upon prevention through sanitation and bio security, and by vaccination.
Strict sanitation and bio security are essential for successful poultry production. Vaccination is no substitute for effective management. It must be understood that vaccines may be effective in reducing clinical disease, but exposed birds, in most cases, still become infected and shed disease organisms. "
After reading the above article, bio-security is great, but when we purchase a battery hen or a commercial bird from a reputable farm, bringing them into our flock, even though their quarantine of 30 days is up, they still will carry these organisms such as virus, mycoplasma, bacteria, fungal, protozoa and parasites , then when we are placing them into our own bio-secure flock, that is not truly bio-secure. Now our home flock has become exposed to the preventative injection that the industry has given to prevent their loss!
So as we speak of how some of these health issues are horrible, you must euthanize and test our small time stock or breeding birds, then tearfully go exterminate, burn and clean our buildings- in which any particle of dust, the ground that we had their pens on or water run off from is contaminated. Even at 50 feet away from said building and dressing piles/fields will be contaminated for no idea how long. If we place chicks back on the old site, they will more or less be infected and carry the same ailments that our once beautiful culled flock carried, spread or purchase a piece of property with a pre-existing contaminate, we will have our own loss over and over again.
"Unfortunately, small poultry flocks do suffer from many diseases which could be controlled through appropriate vaccination. These diseases may result in loss of income from the sale of eggs, meat or stock. Other losses may include death of valuable breeding stock, or the inability to participate at poultry shows. This can be especially devastating for youth with 4-H or FFA projects.
Deciding whether or not to vaccinate against a disease depends on the likelihood that the birds in a flock may be exposed to that specific disease. If a flock is closed, such that new birds are never introduced and the birds that leave the farm are not permitted to return, the likelihood of many diseases is greatly reduced. In these cases, since the risk is small, the owner may decide not to vaccinate.
Vaccination should be considered if the flock owner has experienced one or more of the following:
Takes birds to poultry shows
Buys birds from hatcheries, bird auctions, or other sources and adds them to an existing flock
Has had disease problems in the past "
So here we are, inject and probably spread to a non-vaccinated bird next to us at the county fair/show, alternative of contracting these disease/virus, feeling the shame and failure to many other poultry people that they have or you have visited unknowingly wearing your clothing/foot wear from having a now termed contaminated flock? Or volunteered to assist in a poultry barn, watering and feeding from one bird to the next until you have touched 400+ cages without stopping to wash your hands, the bars between shows, or realizing your commercial stock that came from the injected supplier, has now passed its immunity to the others and we now refer to it as a culling situation.
Deciding whether or not to vaccinate against a disease depends on the likelihood that the birds in a flock may be exposed to that specific disease. If a flock is closed, such that new birds are never introduced and the birds that leave the farm are not permitted to return, the likelihood of many diseases is greatly reduced. In these cases, since the risk is small, the owner may decide not to vaccinate.
Vaccination should be considered if the flock owner has experienced one or more of the following:
Takes birds to poultry shows
Buys birds from hatcheries, bird auctions, or other sources and adds them to an existing flock
Has had disease problems in the past "
So here we are, inject and probably spread to a non-vaccinated bird next to us at the county fair/show, alternative of contracting these disease/virus, feeling the shame and failure to many other poultry people that they have or you have visited unknowingly wearing your clothing/foot wear from having a now termed contaminated flock? Or volunteered to assist in a poultry barn, watering and feeding from one bird to the next until you have touched 400+ cages without stopping to wash your hands, the bars between shows, or realizing your commercial stock that came from the injected supplier, has now passed its immunity to the others and we now refer to it as a culling situation.
"SOURCES OF VACCINE
Hatcheries and poultry suppliers are usually the best sources for vaccines. Be sure to carefully follow label directions when vaccinating. Many effective vaccines are available for the small flock owner. Diseases such as Marek's disease or fowl pox need not cause devastating losses in any flock, regardless of its size.
Unfortunately, poultry vaccines are produced in large dose vials intended for commercial use. This is for the convenience of vaccine manufacturers and of commercial producers who often have several thousand birds to vaccinate at one time. This, however, should not prevent the small producer from immunizing his birds. Plan to vaccinate the entire flock at one time, and possibly coordinate vaccination with neighboring poultry flock owners so the vaccine and expense can be shared. "
Should we be injecting our home flocks so when we bring in that Commercial bird AKA Battery Hen, saving it from the Campbells soup factory we are not doing damage. If we are eating eggs that have this immunity, hatch this immunity or meat birds of all types are inoculated with these immunities, then why are we allowed to feel shame from the many poultry boards for now having immune birds.
Granted Im new to learning about the poultry diseases, virus and such, but interesting how little we know and realize what is really going on without our knowledge.
At one point a while back, I asked during a poultry show why did it matter if a bird was a commercial or not and being disqualified.
The reason was not obvious to me then, yet at this point in my learning, it honestly had nothing to do with spreading immunities and it really should have.
I do not intend on sounding like I know anything, but this is what I assume I know at this point. Like I said, feel free to educate me with your opinion.
Thank you.
Kel
Hatcheries and poultry suppliers are usually the best sources for vaccines. Be sure to carefully follow label directions when vaccinating. Many effective vaccines are available for the small flock owner. Diseases such as Marek's disease or fowl pox need not cause devastating losses in any flock, regardless of its size.
Unfortunately, poultry vaccines are produced in large dose vials intended for commercial use. This is for the convenience of vaccine manufacturers and of commercial producers who often have several thousand birds to vaccinate at one time. This, however, should not prevent the small producer from immunizing his birds. Plan to vaccinate the entire flock at one time, and possibly coordinate vaccination with neighboring poultry flock owners so the vaccine and expense can be shared. "
Should we be injecting our home flocks so when we bring in that Commercial bird AKA Battery Hen, saving it from the Campbells soup factory we are not doing damage. If we are eating eggs that have this immunity, hatch this immunity or meat birds of all types are inoculated with these immunities, then why are we allowed to feel shame from the many poultry boards for now having immune birds.
Granted Im new to learning about the poultry diseases, virus and such, but interesting how little we know and realize what is really going on without our knowledge.
At one point a while back, I asked during a poultry show why did it matter if a bird was a commercial or not and being disqualified.
The reason was not obvious to me then, yet at this point in my learning, it honestly had nothing to do with spreading immunities and it really should have.
I do not intend on sounding like I know anything, but this is what I assume I know at this point. Like I said, feel free to educate me with your opinion.
Thank you.
Kel