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  1. dretd

    Discussion of Legbar Standard of Perfection for -Alternative- Legbars - SOP discussion

    You are asking for comments on his color, correct? Not that he looks like a Roadrunner, or anything else on type?
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    Discussion of Legbar Standard of Perfection for -Alternative- Legbars - SOP discussion

    ...Here are the effects of that gene as listed by KazJaps from http://www.edelras.nl/chickengenetics/mutations1.html : Di (Dilute) characteristics; *note, the above pheonotype is an accumulation of columbian-like restrictors (eg, Co, & other possibilities such as Di, etc) -incompletely...
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    Discussion of Legbar Standard of Perfection for -Alternative- Legbars - SOP discussion

    Another state--Nebraska --has just found their third case (premisis) of burd flu..this one has about 500,000 pullets which will be destroyed. I think I that makes about 4 million from there. No bans on showing yet, but best to watch for announcements from your State's Vet to get the latest for...
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    Discussion of Legbar Standard of Perfection for -Alternative- Legbars - SOP discussion

    Well I guess it could be corrected if there was an actve Club IN GB working on it. Its possible the Autisexing group may take it on. The Brits have had their Cream standard up for well over 50 years and I doubt they care what we think about any of it. The SIlver Legbar is extinct from what I...
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    Discussion of Legbar Standard of Perfection for -Alternative- Legbars - SOP discussion

    1) My personal definition is: Cream is the color that is produced when a chicken has two copies of the inhibitor of gold gene that in its homozygous state will produce a feather that can range between off-white and a pale buttery color, depending on the other genes (barring, autosomal...
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    Discussion of Legbar Standard of Perfection for -Alternative- Legbars - SOP discussion

    Hi Chickcat. This sure has been a lively topic and hopefully will help clarify what people are thinking! Although I am not a huge fan of the OAC for feather color designations (light interplays with the feather structure too much to modify the colors so I think it is too difficult to...
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    Discussion of Legbar Standard of Perfection for -Alternative- Legbars - SOP discussion

    Hi Chicken Picken, thanks for your comments. As I see it, without a Crele Standard up and formalized so that people can breed towards that standard, people can't come together--they can only voice that they want a very saturated version which IMO is going to be too saturated to fit into the...
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    Discussion of Legbar Standard of Perfection for -Alternative- Legbars - SOP discussion

    Hi BBS....for me as a breeder, it is important eventually to have my birds be ig/ig although I have plenty who are split for Cream and many of those are phenotypcially cream--even for people who prefer a lighter shade of cream. The reason for my eventual movement towards a flock of ig/ig is that...
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    Discussion of Legbar Standard of Perfection for -Alternative- Legbars - SOP discussion

    Hi Caychris. My take is that without any red enhancement (aka chestnut) the saddle and the hackle should match. However, becasue chestnut is allowed in the saddle and not the hackle, there will be an inevitable mismatch if the rooster has any chestnut. In my boys, the saddle is more likely to...
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    Discussion of Legbar Standard of Perfection for -Alternative- Legbars - SOP discussion

    Hi KendyF, Cute variety of little pullets you have there Personally I would describe her as chestnut for now--over time she will lighten up as she matures and likely lose some of the black tipping to her breast feathers. In fact, my experience is that her hackles, which look gold tinted to my...
  11. dretd

    Discussion of Legbar Standard of Perfection for -Alternative- Legbars - SOP discussion

    Thanks 1muttsfan, for your opinion. I will post the underlying genetics of each rooster when more people weigh in with their thoughts. Are you a person who looks at the 'Cream' in the Cream Legbar as a genetic state ig/ig or a pale buttery color of a bird?
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    Discussion of Legbar Standard of Perfection for -Alternative- Legbars - SOP discussion

    ...or does the ideal Cream Legbar need to match the SOP regardless of the underlying genetics and if so, how is the term Cream perceived by a judge* given that the Cream Legbar is diluted further with barring? 2) Will it hinder the acceptance of the Cream Legbar into the APA SOP if there is a...
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    Discussion of Legbar Standard of Perfection for -Alternative- Legbars - SOP discussion

    I am going to show y'all a series of rooster and wanted to get your view on them- Are they a) phenotypic Cream (or too light or too dark) and b) are they genetic Cream ig/ig or non-Cream Ig/ig? Which ones are closer to your vision of the standard? Worst examples? Are any of them 'not a Cream...
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    Discussion of Legbar Standard of Perfection for -Alternative- Legbars - SOP discussion

    ...folks that had Brown Leghorns really didn't appreciate that there was an e+ and an eb genetics going on and they were both combined into one breed**. After a time they came to realize that e+ produces a salmon colored breast in females and eb produces a breast the same color as the back in...
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