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  1. DCchicken

    The American Cemani Breeders Club...open forum

    Sorry to hear this happened to you. I know you know this but I will say it for others that don't know it: When you have sick birds, feed the sick ones last and change your clothes between feedings. That helps prevent spreading the infection. Also assume that all are infected and need to be...
  2. DCchicken

    The American Cemani Breeders Club...open forum

    No but there is a group of breeders that have been talking for over a year about forming an official club. Right now it is a private Facebook group of breeders in the U.S which is invite only to weed out the scammers. Originally it was just formed to setup a chick and egg exchange and share in...
  3. DCchicken

    The American Cemani Breeders Club...open forum

    I actually didn't sell any Cemani until I was on my third generation. The cull roosters just got processed and given to my friends. Believe it or not but they have just as much value as food in certain cultures as they do for show. The Hmong are a good example of that. Many Hmong women would...
  4. DCchicken

    The American Cemani Breeders Club...open forum

    That is the nature of FM breeds. If you understand the nature of hyper-pigmentation (or even just normal pigmentation in other animals), you will find that the pigmentation changes over time in individual birds. Cells get damaged, don't divide correctly, and are shed and replaced with age...
  5. DCchicken

    The American Cemani Breeders Club...open forum

    They are way too young to select breeding pairs. I don't select until around 6 months for most of my breeds, although with English Orps, I wait and grow them out to 8 or 9 months. I know many breeders that wait until their chickens are a year or so old before they would even think about...
  6. DCchicken

    The American Cemani Breeders Club...open forum

    Yes I do. But at this time of year, I separate out the roos from the hens. The girls need a break from those not so gentle roos. Plus it is really too cold in most states in the U.S. to ship egg and chicks. So I will start back up again in the Spring.
  7. DCchicken

    MARYLAND THREAD!

    I will have lots of Cream Legbar pullets for sale at the Spring Maryland Poultry Swap. I think you may find that it is really late in the year to find pullets or chicks for most breeds. The temperature is just to cold to properly raise baby chicks.
  8. DCchicken

    MARYLAND THREAD!

    Depending upon what you are looking for I have one of the largest collection of rare breeds in Maryland (15 breeds at last count). I an in Upper Marlboro. Just let me know when you are ready in the Spring.
  9. DCchicken

    The American Cemani Breeders Club...open forum

    Here is an example of how bad the iPhone is for taking photos of Cemani. Notice how it tried to blow out the background to compensate as it was trying to look for gray to focus. The effect is that it lightens everything in the photo trying to make the skin color look more neutral toned...
  10. DCchicken

    Isbar thread

    This is correct. You only get one generation out of a sex link before the trait disappears. However, autosexing breeds pass the traits for generations.
  11. DCchicken

    The American Cemani Breeders Club...open forum

    Randy does have some nice birds. I agree that Cemani are difficult to photograph. I have learned that you can't use an iPhone at all. The image sensor on that camera is tune to human flesh. So it makes the birds look lighter colored than in real life. Standalone cameras seem to have better...
  12. DCchicken

    The American Cemani Breeders Club...open forum

    This is an interesting and practical use. It's definitely out of the box thinking.
  13. DCchicken

    The American Cemani Breeders Club...open forum

    I personally will not kill at hatch as I find it unnecessary and I believe that each chick should have a chance to live. But to each his own method. I grow them out so that I can observe and improve the line. You learn a lot by growing out large amounts of chicks. Culling does not have to...
  14. DCchicken

    Ayam Cemani Hatching Eggs Trade for your Rare breed or color eggs

    Simonerol, My Svart Hona are still laying (slowly but laying). I don't do trades but do sell eggs. Just PM if you are interested. My Svart Hona are the original imports to the U.S. and unrelated to Greenfire Farms, although I do have Greenfire Farms line for Svart Hona as well. I have 15...
  15. DCchicken

    The American Cemani Breeders Club...open forum

    I actually can't cull at hatch. Something about those cute little eyes says "give me a chance." So usually when I say cull it means remove from the breeding stock. The pullets get to live out their lives as layers. The boys get grown to about 4-5 months and then processed (by a nice lady at...
  16. DCchicken

    The American Cemani Breeders Club...open forum

    See we can't verify which direction they went. Some papers seem to say the Ogye were brought to Indonesian by the Dutch. Other papers indicate there was a common, yet extinct common FM ancestor that was freely traded in the region and later was adapted by local customs and tastes. But there...
  17. DCchicken

    The American Cemani Breeders Club...open forum

    I actually have a different theory that the Cemani ancestor (the unknown Asian bird) actually originates from Korea where it is much colder than Indonesia, rather than the other way around. But that mystery probably won't be solved until I can get some lab time and run the DNA for the Ogye and...
  18. DCchicken

    The American Cemani Breeders Club...open forum

    The laying age for Breese can vary a lot from bird to bird. I had some start at 5 months and some not lay until 8 months. But once they get started, you will need a bigger egg basket.
  19. DCchicken

    The American Cemani Breeders Club...open forum

    You could try moving them to an unheated garage first. That's what I do before my little babies get the boot to the coops. The TM Astin line usually start at 4 1/2 months- 5 months. They are decent layers. Nothing compares to the Bresse. They are laying machines. I delivered a trio to...
  20. DCchicken

    MARYLAND THREAD!

    I know Garrett County. I go fishing up there all the time. I can't imagine anyone up there complaining about livestock. But Maryland is odd. Like I said, I am a 5 minute drive to the nearest Metro stop and everyone around me has some kind of animal or another. But cross over the D.C. border...
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