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Of course the pictures that I posted were intended as an example to show the difference between dark barring in the hackles and saddle and the lack of it - not the quality of the birds involved.

Here are two cockerels with different barring on the neck, chest and back. One is a legbar, the other a Basque. The roosters of these two breeds are strikingly similar, while the hens are completely different - a great example of how genes may cause very different genotypes to appear similar...

Perhaps you should limit your criticism of other colors to the Cream Legbar thread, as you seem to have a vision of the Creams that you share with some others, while some are not totally convinced that you are correct. While it is often confusing to try to keep up on 2 separate legbar threads...

I toss a few handfuls of calf manna out a few times a week, like scratch.

Has anyone expressed an interest in recreating gold Legbars? it is not something that interests me, but I have a definite interest in a gold crested Legbar laying blue eggs. Seems like the crested and blue egg laying parts would be enough to clearly distinguish it from a gold Legbar. Also very...

Kumbaya! Love a good discussion, especially when we can all play together nicely I do have one cockerel, not used for breeding, and slated for removal that is undersized, has always been a little on the small size and has not filled out as he matured.

When I have trouble understanding, I just - or sometimes . Usually means my brain cells are overloaded (not too hard to do!) and I just feel like Besides, sometimes you just need to

While it is difficult for some people to understand some of the more complicated genetic terminology, it also has a place in any breed discussion of color. Some people understand the words, some the symbols, and a few fortunate ones understand both. If there is something posted that you think...

I find the conversation about the barring color and presence/absence fascinating - thank you Nicelandia

I believe it is not possible to get a breed admitted to the Standard in more than one color variety - after they are established, each color variety has to be added one at a time, with all the same hoops to jump through separately for each one. So breeds that are found in multiple colors, such...

As per Walt in the CSU thread, the tail angle is measured from the backline, NOT from the horizontal (eg the ground)

Seems quite clear that there are cream legbars that have pale color in the hackles and some chestnut color, and are correct in type. We seem to be talking about variations in how light the cream is, and the silver (or grey if you prefer, as that is more technically correct) birds do not look...

While this may be the "correct" coloring, I do not love it, nor think these birds are the "stunning" ones described by Punnett. There must be some intermediate between these silver looking birds and the bright chestnut ones that are not correct.

Thanks, that seems sensible.

Good luck to you

I got my heavy-duty poultry netting off ebay (they have smaller sizes on offer), and actually watched a hawk bounce right off if as if it were a trampoline - it flew into a tree next to the pen to ponder the situation. Laughed my you-know-what off. Netting is worth every penny.

Maybe you and I are using different meanings for the word "resistant". In infectious terms, that means resistant to infection, not resistant to illness and dying. All live virus vaccines work the same way, by causing an infection that leads to decreased sickness and death in a population, not...

The vaccine is a live virus vaccine, but it is either an attenuated strain (less pathogenic) or a similar and related turkey herpesvirus. Not becoming ill does not mean resistance - the birds still become infected. They just do not all show any clinical disease. This does not mean they are...

Marek's does not spread vertically (from hen to egg), but is easily transmitted horizontally (from bird to bird) and via fomites - eg, feathers, shoes, dander, feed and water containers, and other objects. Marek's is in the herpesvirus family, along with diseases such as herpes simplex...