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Fine - There are Gov't Conspiracies, but H5N1 is not among them. Anahmeim Stadium and the Angels, as but one example of many many many. FIFY.

Mercola? I'd rather troll Twitter or Youtube looking for experts on any given subject. At least after a few youtube videos I could probably successfully plumb a toilet.

The difference between LPAI and HPAI is definitional, based on observation. Death rates above 75%, HPAI. Death rates below 75%, LPAI. Here's an "injected" study using the Chinese variants from a few years back. Injection, of course, is good science - it allows one to control the dosing. The...

Yes, when I desire to respond with rudeness, I try to be rude with style. Not always successfully, sadly. Still, a more informative read than a dive straight to name calling and muck slinging. A small concession to my adoring public. :lau

Speaking only for myself, I do not strive for kindness, only accuracy. /edit Except in my spelling, about which I don't care.

Glad it wasn't your flock.

"Oxygen" Outside is an Oxygen rich environment. Inside the cell walls, much less so.

Yes, I just don't feel for some unnamed someone... I'm not wired for emotional connections to the nameless/faceless with whom I have no relationship. As I said, I'm bad at being a decent human.

I thought that was Sarah repeating the post of an unnamed someone known to her, not Sarah speaking for herself??? I may be a bad copy of a human, but even I would have some small sense of empathy if she lost her own flock and would be w/o replacements for at least half a year. Was I mistaken?

I live in FL. My average temps, this time of year, are high enough to kill HPAI before incubation is complete - or will be by next month. We are already hitting high 80s during the day, and our humidity ensures we don't (normally) have deep drops in temp overnight. I don't think 70F minimum...

thank you for sharing this - I was wondering if they would let eggs be kept, since the process of incubation is hot enough, for long enough, to kill the HPAI (and as the commercial hatchery was allowed to do). Seems like that varies by State. That's alos a VERY long property quarantine period.

no, an appetizer. It will be much smaller than the last meal. ;)

Yeah, I'm definitely stepping off this thread.

Yeah, no need to use cell data to see who has been buying feed at the farm store.

If their coop appears on google maps, the State will find them - its how CA found backyard flocks during Newcastle. and when that didn't work, they did aerial flyovers.

Yes, that's true. The hot zones for state culling are much smaller than in vND. I hadn't considered that - but that's as much a factor of the State making the decision as a specific response to the disease in question. CA brought a sledge where they may perhaps have brought a std. claw head...

I'm unsure how to define "vND" levels so a head to head comparison can be made. AI has already had a greater effect in terms of states on geographic lockdown, its already had a greater effect on the US food supply, and it has already resulted in more birds killed. Around 1.2M birds culled in CA...

Popcorn is for Scratch. Not a fan. ...and if I wanted a stream of low information opinions, I'd be watching a Facebook feed, or hanging out on Twitter. Have done what I can here, I'm stepping off. If my opinion is desired, @ me. Otherwise, I've more valuable things to do today. Like...

If someone is interested, and has high speed dta (I'm on cell phone, and throttled by my data plan), here's an article from the H5N2 outbreak in 2015 which hit turkeys pretty hard in MN. There seems to be enough detail on locations to find some of these farms on Google Maps and look to see if...

Mostly, I think people are really bad with statistics. Commercial flocks are tested constantly, so the chances of infection escaping detection are quite low, and the number of affected birds is quite high. That creates the appearance that commercial flocks are the primary source of this, or...