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  1. alibabba

    Not an Emergency...Marek's in the Flock

    oh, moral... i have yet to put in box for fox.
  2. alibabba

    Not an Emergency...Marek's in the Flock

    One more day.... My thing is I will put them in a box for the fox. I can't do it myself. So sorry just being real and vulnerable. No need to judge what I can and can't do. They succumb overnight I've never had one recover. The most recent had a splits and set her up so she could eat and...
  3. alibabba

    Not an Emergency...Marek's in the Flock

    old stuff, just catching up, surely you know by now, as devastating as it is, not the end! Hope I read on and things have settled and improved. xo
  4. alibabba

    Not an Emergency...Marek's in the Flock

    awww gosh, so sorry for this and all of your losses. :( Shouldn't be this way for such hardy creatures.
  5. alibabba

    Not an Emergency...Marek's in the Flock

    This is also interesting to me...because I have mixed breed chicks being broody raised now. I really don't like vaccinating...I really hate death and culling. argh. I should .probably let these just go...see what happens. I did have one roo, with sorta classic symptoms put down a few...
  6. alibabba

    Not an Emergency...Marek's in the Flock

    I have yet to read the entire post...but I have the same eye candy in a EE Roo...gold/black green hackles, blue wings, purple and green in his tail....God's glory! in a way... I need to find him a home... But I appreciate the feeling.. WOW, just WOW!
  7. alibabba

    Not an Emergency...Marek's in the Flock

    That is what basically eradicated Polio, Smallpox etc., large scale vaccination. There must be a thread of similarity. This virus was not around since the first "domesticated chicken" or was it, but not as deadly in the sense of communicability or in the pathological sense? Mary...
  8. alibabba

    Not an Emergency...Marek's in the Flock

    This is an amazing pool of info. PBS is a pretty reliable source. I don't know, Have they been untrustworthy in the past? They probably had to pull punches, I would think.. to even get this to air. Chicken Pox, Shingles? Carrier and shedding...? The Marek's vaccination is similar to...
  9. alibabba

    Not an Emergency...Marek's in the Flock

    yep. treating for cocci isn't a done thing, unless people check further into why. Even if feeding medicated food, Cocci is a def. possibility...and then the secondary bacterial infection that can follow because the intestinal wall is damaged. I know nothing, but now I know the look....and...
  10. alibabba

    Not an Emergency...Marek's in the Flock

    why not? if you are honest. I have Marek's and would be willing to take "possibly exposed" babies, or buy her some vaccinated day olds? ...plus, there are always the "raising to eat"...and Marek's exposure doesn't matter.
  11. alibabba

    Not an Emergency...Marek's in the Flock

    My little bantam hen, even on her last day kept trying to get out of her little box, never stayed in the sling long, would fling herself everywhere. It was sad. she only had paralyis of legs. In the future, I will not go to the extreme. I will give them a week of meds in case it's something...
  12. alibabba

    Not an Emergency...Marek's in the Flock

    While I have the vaccine out for the 3 new broody chicks tomorrow....I might as well redo the 1st broody batch. It will have been around 12 days. Or....I could do nothing with the 2nd batch and see what happens. Taking a stroll over to the breeding for Marek's resistance thread, I'll bug...
  13. alibabba

    Not an Emergency...Marek's in the Flock

    Study multiple vaccinations, eg boosting for superior immunity. Researchers used multiple strains. Interesting results with maternal antibodies...vaccination (good infection) can be inhibited by maternal antibodies on the initial vaccination, but 2nd vaccination counteracts this effect...
  14. alibabba

    Not an Emergency...Marek's in the Flock

    Well, I was gonna say, you have to be hard hearted to do it that way...but honesty it is what it is, isn't it? If as in humans every chicken was vaccinated, the disease could be erradicated, eg. polio, smallpox. But, there are too many chickens and reproduction is so rapid. Breeding for the...
  15. alibabba

    Not an Emergency...Marek's in the Flock

    Yep, I just have 4 kiddos around right now and I didn't want to get mad at them if they squeezed or dropped one. So, Next time I will have an unsqueamish, very tough adult over to help... Or I pack the whole thing in the car and take it to my cheap, no appointment, 85 year old, darling...
  16. alibabba

    Not an Emergency...Marek's in the Flock

    Very very interesting. What does the breeder do? Let nature take its course and breed survivors? For resistance?
  17. alibabba

    Not an Emergency...Marek's in the Flock

    There is a time from hatch where immune system is super on. I think 2 weeks... until their own immune systems kicks in. So it makes sense that the virus hits during this susceptible time and shows as illness at around 8 weeks. (Huh, I think incubation is around 6 weeks for the virus) ETA...
  18. alibabba

    Not an Emergency...Marek's in the Flock

    I'm thinking...that sounds like a lot of work....can't hurt, may help... This speck of dust....that can just sit and wait.... in the dirt of the run, mud in the corner....but better to eliminate every bit you can if you have the time, strength and energy!!!
  19. alibabba

    Not an Emergency...Marek's in the Flock

    Hey thanks. Told my son tonight, " We don't know if the moms and dads were vaccinated, maybe maybe not. If not, hey, they have some immunity, probably won't help much. They may go at 8 weeks, they may go til POL. But we will enjoy them while they are here!" And you know...
  20. alibabba

    Not an Emergency...Marek's in the Flock

    This will be hard with Momma raised chicks. Now we wait to see what they really look like, then we wait to see if they get ill by 8 weeks, then we see if they get ill at POL (One was ill and died after about 5 pullet eggs, visceral) Then we wait and see if they die before 1 year (had...
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