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  1. bnjrob

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    Spurs on the hens are a defect, not a disqualification, so in an APA show, they'd get marked down a little but that is not the end of the world. It's getting increasingly difficult to get Javas, especially now that the main person who kept them alive for the last half a century or so, downsized...
  2. bnjrob

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    :thIf it's not one thing it's another. I'm glad you at least have some backups. You're right about the flightiness though and perhaps you'll be happier in the long run even though it may take you longer to get the birds up to SOP size. I've got the two different bloodlines and one is...
  3. bnjrob

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    It's hard to make the decision about using one with a somewhat serious flaw but in my case I'm happy that I did it. Mating an off colored cock back to correctly colored females, and then continuing to mate the offspring back to correct colored birds is working well for me. I'm seeing less...
  4. bnjrob

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    We've had a couple like that but I can't remember how they grew out. Feather colors are easier to fix than some of the other stuff, so if type is good and he has dark eyes, I'd consider using him, knowing all the issues you've had with getting what you need. I think you'd be able to breed out...
  5. bnjrob

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    Quote: Originally Posted by Elemes I have two cockerels growing out right now, just deciding which one I'll be keeping. Which one do you prefer? They're 3.5 months of age. If you are planning to breed to the SOP, then it is really too early to be making a decision. Javas can take more than...
  6. bnjrob

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    Quote: Originally Posted by bullrunslabs Hello everyone, please forgive me, I am new to Javas. I purchased two mottled java chicks back in the beginning of the year from a Wilco here in Oregon. I lost one young and the other is now 39.5 weeks. I have a very beautiful bird, but I am uncertain...
  7. bnjrob

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    Quote: Originally Posted by KittieChick Okay, thank you. Yellow soles? I have some with, some without. Thankfully they are all beetle green on black. Yes, you need the yellow soles. Eye color is not as important as the yellow feet. Try to avoid using birds for breeding that don't have...
  8. bnjrob

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    Comb is more difficult. Concentrate on it before you worry too much about eye color.
  9. bnjrob

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    *Auburn Javas* are not breeding true as often as the long accepted SOP color varieties of Javas. The man that created them, and has been working on them for approx. 10 years, does have birds that have a more uniform color appearance, but most people's *Auburn Javas* do not have as uniform...
  10. bnjrob

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    Are you sure it's an actual different color and not just paleness of the comb and wattles? I have never heard of anyone's Javas having their combs and wattles be truly a cream or white color. Earlobes are a different story. Positive enamel white in the earlobe of Java is a disqualification...
  11. bnjrob

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    If you don't have any other genes showing up in your hatch group, then most of them are going to look really white as chicks. Once they get past roughly 6 months old, you can get a little better idea of how white they will be at the starting line of maturity (approx. 1 year old). Javas are...
  12. bnjrob

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    Depends on what your goals are for your breeding program. If it doesn't have decent Java *type*, then I wouldn't bother with it at all - put it into your food-egg flock or eat it. If you are breeding your Mottleds to the Standard, then you do not want to use that bird. Mottled Javas already...
  13. bnjrob

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    Don't know what to tell you. Have not had that come up in any of our hatches of Mottled or Black. But it seems like every time someone comes up with a different colored chick, they almost always are traced back to GF at some point.
  14. bnjrob

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    Try contacting Ruth - here's her website http://www.wyandottesandrocks.com/
  15. bnjrob

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    That is not a Java. Javas don't come in that feather color, that is a blue feather color. Think there was an *oops* from whoever you got that from.
  16. bnjrob

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    That's great that you had some Whites pop up! Especially with the willow colored legs! Urch/Turnland Poultry can ship and has Blacks. You can find them on standardbreedpoultry.com
  17. bnjrob

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    The longer shape is an individual bird issue. A few of our more pinched tailed hens tend to lay longer eggs but every once in a while we'll get a long egg from a hen that normally lays normal shaped eggs. We get a range of egg colors from light tinted creams through to darker browns. Our...
  18. bnjrob

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    The Garfield Farm birds are the original source flock putting out the *auburn* colored Javas, so the eye color could also be a result of having the reddish feathering gene . You'll have to watch out for that as well. The birds that have the reddish coloring generally tend to carry the pink...
  19. bnjrob

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    You can keep them together, however breeding them when they all run together is another story - especially if you are wanting pure, properly colored birds for showing/selling purposes. The Blacks aren't as detrimental to the Mottleds, but the Mottleds will mess up your Blacks coloring much...
  20. bnjrob

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    The SOP has more than just breed standards in it, it has helpful information about chickens and breeding in general, so you'll want it as you go along. But you're on the right track asking questions and doing research! I have never actually seen a Mottled Java that really meets the SOP for...
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