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You are asking for comments on his color, correct? Not that he looks like a Roadrunner, or anything else on type?

I'm glad you re-posted a link to this discussion. I remember reading the details of the cross to test for Silver in this person's flock and thought there was something problematic but couldn't remember what it was. I will sum up the experiment for those that don't have time to read the 7 page...

Another state--Nebraska --has just found their third case (premisis) of burd flu..this one has about 500,000 pullets which will be destroyed. I think I that makes about 4 million from there. No bans on showing yet, but best to watch for announcements from your State's Vet to get the latest for...

Well I guess it could be corrected if there was an actve Club IN GB working on it. Its possible the Autisexing group may take it on. The Brits have had their Cream standard up for well over 50 years and I doubt they care what we think about any of it. The SIlver Legbar is extinct from what I...

1) My personal definition is: Cream is the color that is produced when a chicken has two copies of the inhibitor of gold gene that in its homozygous state will produce a feather that can range between off-white and a pale buttery color, depending on the other genes (barring, autosomal...

Hi Chickcat. This sure has been a lively topic and hopefully will help clarify what people are thinking! Although I am not a huge fan of the OAC for feather color designations (light interplays with the feather structure too much to modify the colors so I think it is too difficult to...

Hi Chicken Picken, thanks for your comments. As I see it, without a Crele Standard up and formalized so that people can breed towards that standard, people can't come together--they can only voice that they want a very saturated version which IMO is going to be too saturated to fit into the...

Hi BBS....for me as a breeder, it is important eventually to have my birds be ig/ig although I have plenty who are split for Cream and many of those are phenotypcially cream--even for people who prefer a lighter shade of cream. The reason for my eventual movement towards a flock of ig/ig is that...

Hi Caychris. My take is that without any red enhancement (aka chestnut) the saddle and the hackle should match. However, becasue chestnut is allowed in the saddle and not the hackle, there will be an inevitable mismatch if the rooster has any chestnut. In my boys, the saddle is more likely to...

Hi KendyF, Cute variety of little pullets you have there Personally I would describe her as chestnut for now--over time she will lighten up as she matures and likely lose some of the black tipping to her breast feathers. In fact, my experience is that her hackles, which look gold tinted to my...

Thanks 1muttsfan, for your opinion. I will post the underlying genetics of each rooster when more people weigh in with their thoughts. Are you a person who looks at the 'Cream' in the Cream Legbar as a genetic state ig/ig or a pale buttery color of a bird?

Thanks for the reply. I am hoping you can be more specific and elaborate a bit more for me. The color reference in the proposed SOP will always be Cream--we are not going to change that term its how we interpret what is meant by Cream that is the issue. I think the crux of the color issue...

I am going to show y'all a series of rooster and wanted to get your view on them- Are they a) phenotypic Cream (or too light or too dark) and b) are they genetic Cream ig/ig or non-Cream Ig/ig? Which ones are closer to your vision of the standard? Worst examples? Are any of them 'not a Cream...

Hi FMP. I am glad you showed up and think you can contribute a lot to the discussion since you have Cream Legbars, are experienced at showing and have birds that are most probably split for Cream. I think that back in the day, the folks that had Brown Leghorns really didn't appreciate that...