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  1. nicalandia

    Post Your Chocolates, Dun ,Khaki , Platinum Bird Pics

    so far I havent seen any, seems that since is stilla a project and producing a good male is harder than females, you see all you have to do is to mate a choc male to a blue female... mating the blue colored males that carry choc(recessive) with the Mauve hens would produce alot of different...
  2. nicalandia

    Post Your Chocolates, Dun ,Khaki , Platinum Bird Pics

    all I want to know how to get a "Chocolaty" color Dun Based bird like the Dun based chocolate polish in this pic. I'll get the chance to test this myself, as I believe I was able to obtain what I believe is a dun based barred cockerel, I'll mate him to a production red hen hoping for...
  3. nicalandia

    Post Your Chocolates, Dun ,Khaki , Platinum Bird Pics

    no they are not true chocolates, but they created a Craze in the UK... I dont know if there is a project or not, but if I would start one I would look for similar sized birds to start with, you should start with recessive chocolate gene if you can but if you cant use a Dun based chocolate...
  4. nicalandia

    Post Your Chocolates, Dun ,Khaki , Platinum Bird Pics

    there was a Craze on Europe because some people were importing "Chocolate" Leghorns from the U.S.A but this "Chocolate Leghorns" were infact Dark Brown Leghorns which are based on the eb brown e allele and have very strong red enhancers... this is how females look this is how the...
  5. nicalandia

    Post Your Chocolates, Dun ,Khaki , Platinum Bird Pics

    sorry not all of them.. some look very slate dun color. Dun being an incompletely dominant gene is not as stable as the recessive choc gene.. so being in Heterozygous form will lead to different shades of Dun, one of them is Chocolate but not always. this dutch boy looks nearly chocolate but...
  6. nicalandia

    Post Your Chocolates, Dun ,Khaki , Platinum Bird Pics

    while Dun can be made to look like Chocolate and make it indistinguishable from the "Real" chocolate gene. "Dun" is NOT chocolate and most of the time(when not breeding for it) will not look lke chocolate y will look "Dun". there are ways to make dun look like chocolate. but you wont get a...
  7. nicalandia

    Post Your Chocolates, Dun ,Khaki , Platinum Bird Pics

    I´ll take the breeder´s word for it
  8. nicalandia

    Post Your Chocolates, Dun ,Khaki , Platinum Bird Pics

    some nice pics of the "Chocolate" Cuckoo maran project. compared to Dun Barred I know self Chocolate based birds based on Dun can look the same as Choc based birds, but this takes breeding and selecting for it. I believe once the Dun Cuckoo or Dun Barring breeders start doing...
  9. nicalandia

    Post Your Chocolates, Dun ,Khaki , Platinum Bird Pics

    I wonder if gold is need it to produce Chocolate Barred or Chocolate Cuckoo.
  10. nicalandia

    Post Your Chocolates, Dun ,Khaki , Platinum Bird Pics

    they are not mine. somebody named Rignalda. but these pics are like 3 years old, we need new info on the baige silkies
  11. nicalandia

    Post Your Chocolates, Dun ,Khaki , Platinum Bird Pics

    if you have a Choc(Recessive sex linked chocolate) Rooster and mate it to a Dun Chocolate hen(dominant Dun I`D/i+) this is what they will look.. 50% of the males will look Dun chocolate(Dun I^D) choc and Dun chocolate can look identical(most of the time) they will carry the recessive sex...
  12. nicalandia

    Post Your Chocolates, Dun ,Khaki , Platinum Bird Pics

    blue can be improved upon.. the issue with blue is that other genes/diluters can affect its appearance.. check my light blue cockerel. other genes at play
  13. nicalandia

    Post Your Chocolates, Dun ,Khaki , Platinum Bird Pics

    oh he is blue alright.. he seem to carry a melanizer(maybe Melanotic).. blue is not good at diluting melanotic. not even on wildtype birds. example Blue Brassy Back even Splash has some issues diluting Melanotic on some background Splash Brassy Back
  14. nicalandia

    Post Your Chocolates, Dun ,Khaki , Platinum Bird Pics

    whats the difference between blue and recessive chocolate?.. for one Blue is autosomal(not sex linked), Blue is incompletely dominant and incompletely penetrant(source https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/559750/incomplete-dominant-vs-complete-dominant-vs-incomplete-penetrant) two copies of blue...
  15. nicalandia

    Post Your Chocolates, Dun ,Khaki , Platinum Bird Pics

    My friend Henk didnt add anything new to this topic, we all know Het Dun can be leaky too. now you are comparing the Pied gene with recessive sex linked chocolate?
  16. nicalandia

    Post Your Chocolates, Dun ,Khaki , Platinum Bird Pics

    we are talking about recessive chocolate here henk... I know Heterozygous dun can be leaky. thats not new here(posted about it)
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