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In that third picture as a small chick it appears to be a lavender. It also appears to be a cockerel. I see three distinct rows of a pea comb.

As far as working with them the longest, that would be Harry Shaffer.

There is some of that barring type issue in these, but it is not too bad. I really think it is because of the black modifiers bred into the blacks that makes this pop up. That is the only thing that I could attribute it to as I know there is no barring gene in them. I think once we get our...

I have some as well. I will be outcrossing to blacks this year. The person I got them from hasn't brought in any new blood and they look more like a d'Anver than an ameraucana now. The feather quality actually seems ok, but their tails are a bit high and they drag their wings something...

There isn't a difference, it is an interchangeable name. Check your APA or ABA standard of perfection and read the last few previous pages.

There is a buy sell trade forum here on BYC. If you are looking for more breeders you can check out the breeders list at the ameraucana breeders club here: http://ameraucanabreedersclub.org/docs/breedersdirectory_2015.pdf

I have never really studied the birds feather quality in depth and had a chance to compare lav to lav breeding as compared to split to lav breeding. I have continued to breed for the best body type first and that included breeding out to blacks in the beginning. So now I keep both splits and...

The gene was already discovered Walt, people just chose to call it something else, self blue. :) Just goes to show the lavender/self blue name is interchangeable and whatever you call it, it is a personal preference in terms. If lavender was truly different, then those self blue birds would...

Quote: Quote: Both breeds of birds used to create the bantam lavender ameraucana are still and were called self blue in the APA and ABA Standard of Perfection at the time of the outcross. The self blue old English game bantam was accepted by the APA in 1965. The self blue Belgian...

There is no such thing as a third type of blue as posted above as "a genetically self blue bird". They are either andalusian blue or lavender/self blue genetically. The lavender/self blue name is interchangeable. People can try to pass off a poorly patterned andalusian blue as a self blue...

There are only two different forms of blue. There is andalusian blue which is a dominant gene that dilutes black to blue and can also dilute to splash if there are two copies of it. And, there is self blue which is the recessive lavender gene that dilutes black when there are two copies of...

I find it amazing that you were willing to accept the color description the APA has in their standard a couple years ago but don't want to now because of difference of opinion on the name of the color. Specifically you wanted to call the name lavender and refer to the self blue description...

http://ameraucana.org/docs/breedersdirectory_2015_state.pdf There should be several breeders near you. Just check here. :)

Sent you a pm. Also there are more breeders listed on the ameraucana breeders club breeders list. http://ameraucana.org/docs/breedersdirectory_2015.pdf

I should have some available at the end of the summer.

A good thing for you to do would be to attend a poultry show. You will have a chance to look at many different varieties of birds.

BarrettG, you can read a condensed version of the standard here: http://ameraucana.org/standard.html at the Ameraucana Breeders Club site. We are currently in the process of getting the variety recognized by the APA.

Were they from Paul or someone just using his name??? Was the flock ever shown? Did you ever show any of the birds?

What shows have you gone to?

A split is a bird that is carrying a recessive gene and does not express it. It can be split to white, lavender or chocolate. A bird can also be split for a pattern gene like silver or wheaten. The pattern gene the birds carries ultimately makes them looks the way they do. Some people have...