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[wrathsfarm]

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Another cockerel from the barnyard mix.

Part of my quote got deleted...weird.

I spy your WTB boy in the background and the little bluish grey chick on the right looks like it was photo shopped in to photo bomb...

 

[NatJ]

I’m just going out on limb here. I think it will be all white. I’ve seen pics of Zombies and they are a cross of white leghorn and all black ayam cemani. They usually have some black feathers mixed with the white. This all white chick is from I believe a multi generation fibro olive egger so maybe it has recessive white. Maybe somebody more knowledgeable like @NatJ can take a look at her?

Your thinking sounds about right to me. I can't say whether it is actually correct, just that it lines up with what I know (or think I know.)

I'll be curious to see how the chick looks as it grows.

And my limited knowledge on the blue egg gene I've read there is a tie to the pea comb somehow when searching EE's blue egg genes for example also. Don't know the genetics of it, just picked it up from reading.

The blue egg gene and the pea comb gene are linked, which means the genes are physically close together on the chicken's chromosome, so they usually get inherited together.

But they can be linked in any combination:
pea comb/blue egg in Ameraucana
pea comb/not-blue egg in Brahma
not-pea comb/blue egg in Cream Legbar
not-pea comb/not-blue egg in Marans and many other common breeds

Many Easter Eggers descend from pea comb/blue egg chickens crossed to single comb/not-blue egg chickens (example: Ameraucana x Leghorn). As the chicks are interbred in later generations, there is a tendency to still find that the pea comb goes with the blue egg gene and the single comb goes with not-blue. There are occasional exceptions, which is part of why hatcheries often warn that their Easter Eggers have a certain rate of laying brown: they selected for pea combs, but a few chicks got the linkage mixed up and lay brown eggs anyway.

But if someone starts doing other crosses, they might have backwards results (Cream Legbar x Brahma), or they might have just one comb type with both egg colors (Cream Legbar x Rhode Island Red or Ameraucana x Brahma). Or they might have one egg color with several comb types (Brahma x Rhode Island Red or Ameraucana x Cream Legbar.)

 

[MayBerg]

I’m just going out on limb here. I think it will be all white. I’ve seen pics of Zombies and they are a cross of white leghorn and all black ayam cemani. They usually have some black feathers mixed with the white. This all white chick is from I believe a multi generation fibro olive egger so maybe it has recessive white. Maybe somebody more knowledgeable like @NatJ can take a look at her?

Can't wait to see it all grown up. I've never seen zombie chicken before, and what an odd name too.

If they are mix with leghorn, are they also great layers? What color eggs? I am gonna assume white/cream color eggs?

How about health concerns? Any concerns like the Golden sex links chickens?

 

[NatJ]

Can't wait to see it all grown up. I've never seen zombie chicken before, and what an odd name too.

If they are mix with leghorn, are they also great layers? What color eggs? I am gonna assume white/cream color eggs?

How about health concerns? Any concerns like the Golden sex links chickens?

Here is a thread with some photos:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/ayam-cemani-x-white-leghorn.1427857/

The combination of white feathers and black skin looks odd if you are used to the more common colorings of chickens. I'm guessing that is why someone started calling them "Zombies."

I would not expect them to have any particular health concerns.

 

[MayBerg]

Here is a thread with some photos:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/ayam-cemani-x-white-leghorn.1427857/

The combination of white feathers and black skin looks odd if you are used to the more common colorings of chickens. I'm guessing that is why someone started calling them "Zombies."

I would not expect them to have any particular health concerns.

Thank you NatJ.
I know this might be the wrong thread, but why the gold sexlinks have so many health concerns after 2 years old if they are a mix of rhode islands and New Hampshire (or something like that). I got one and I am scared when I hear how they fall apart after 2 years.

 

[NatJ]

Thank you NatJ.
I know this might be the wrong thread, but why the gold sexlinks have so many health concerns after 2 years old if they are a mix of rhode islands and New Hampshire (or something like that). I got one and I am scared when I hear how they fall apart after 2 years.

The problem does not come from being a mix. The problem comes from the exact parents used.

Companies are breeding from the very "best" layers up to a certain age-- and they don't care how healthy the chickens are past that point. They are not trying to select for bad health, they are just failing to select for good health past that point.

Some of the same effect happens with any breed from a commercial hatchery, even the long-established heritage breeds, because the hatcheries are not raising any breed past their first year of laying. But it does seem to be most pronounced for the "best" layers (the sexlinks.) Then again, the sexlinks are more common than any other single breed in backyard flocks, so we might hear more about it just because there are more of them. I certainly do see posts about reproductive issues in other breeds as well.

 

[TexasBlues]

Can't wait to see it all grown up. I've never seen zombie chicken before, and what an odd name too.

If they are mix with leghorn, are they also great layers? What color eggs? I am gonna assume white/cream color eggs?

How about health concerns? Any concerns like the Golden sex links chickens?

It looks like it’s a cockerel.
If anybody’s interested in him, I’m in central Texas and you can have him, I wasn’t planning on keeping any of the males from this group.
Check out the attitude in the video. Ever see a pullet act like that?

 

[MayBerg]

The problem does not come from being a mix. The problem comes from the exact parents used.

Companies are breeding from the very "best" layers up to a certain age-- and they don't care how healthy the chickens are past that point. They are not trying to select for bad health, they are just failing to select for good health past that point.

Some of the same effect happens with any breed from a commercial hatchery, even the long-established heritage breeds, because the hatcheries are not raising any breed past their first year of laying. But it does seem to be most pronounced for the "best" layers (the sexlinks.) Then again, the sexlinks are more common than any other single breed in backyard flocks, so we might hear more about it just because there are more of them. I certainly do see posts about reproductive issues in other breeds as well.

So, does that mean one can have a golden sexlink that live years without reproductive issues or without dying right after 2 years?

 

[MayBerg]

So, does that mean one can have a golden sexlink that live years without reproductive issues or without dying right after 2 years?

J

 

[NatJ]

So, does that mean one can have a golden sexlink that live years without reproductive issues or without dying right after 2 years?

Yes, it is possible.

It could be done commercially on a large scale, if the breeders decide they care (but that probably will not happen.)

In a backyard flock, if you buy golden sexlink chicks, you might find that some of them have a normal lifespan (equal to other chickens.)

And if you breed your own, you can cross breeds in a way that gives the same sex-linked coloration but without such extreme laying ability and hopefully without the tendency to health problems.