100 Broilers and Fermented Feed Project

[Coralietg]

Oooh I didnt think about the religous history.... Not an issue for me though...

Thank you

deb

I generally used to think that Halal and Kosher methods of slaughter were quite cruel. Seems to prolong suffering in larger animals, with the absence of stunning. I think chickens have such a small amount of blood in them, they aren't conscious for very long at all.

Quick Wiki quote:

"Dhabīḥah (ذَبِيْحَة) is the prescribed method of slaughtering all meat sources, excluding fish and other sea-life, per Islamic law. This method of slaughtering animals consists of using a well-sharpened knife to make a swift, deep incision that cuts the front of the throat, the carotid artery, windpipe, and jugular veins to cause the least amount of suffering to the animal. The head of an animal that is slaughtered using halal methods is aligned with the qiblah. In addition to the direction, permitted animals should be slaughtered upon utterance of the Islamic prayer "in the name of God."

 

[kuntrygirl]

 


Were they processing broilers or an old rooster? I had two old roosters that I processed and they stunk to high heaven. I think it was all their hormones because their "parts" were huge. When I process broilers or younger birds they barely smell at all. In fact, you smell the blood better then you do the innards.

I'm pretty sure the ones he had were leftover from a commercial broiler house.

On a side note, I was telling KG that the farmers market had chicken breasts for sale at $11.99 a pound, lol. I'm liking my meat chickens more and more each day.

@ $11.99 lb. That is outrageous! Doesn't it make you want to get more meat birds?

 

[kuntrygirl]

perchie, others can answer your questions about bleeding and keeping clean better than I, but I wanted to respond about doing it all on your own. 

I am married and have a capable other person to help out.  Who doesn't, at all (chicken-stuff at least...he can hold his own in the household in other places).  The chicken stuff is all up to me.  I will say that I think it will be very, very demanding to raise CX and make a profit, doing all the work yourself.  I raise batches of 10 CX at a time, and 10 alone is a bit taxing on me!  The butchering...the set up, the process, the cleanup...for 3 birds took 1.5 hours this weekend.  Okay, that's not much time, and most of it was set up and clean up, but 6 birds is the most I can handle butchering at one time.  I'm youngish and fit, and still find it tiring!  I think it would be very hard work to actually try to process enough birds to make a profit, if it is you and you alone doing everything.  Dang near impossible if you are otherwise working fulltime and/or have kids to take care of.  If your job is the chickens, then it might be more realistic. 

If you raised quail, that might be much easier to process in quantities all alone--no gutting, no plucking, no rib scraping for the dang lungs....basically just ripping the breast bone up and away. 

I just re-read--yes, you can easily raise and process the chickens for your own table, no problem.  I think the problem would lie in trying to process enough chickens to make money, totally by yourself.  Even with one other person to help out, the difficulties are much less. 

AMEN!

I know exactly what you mean. I'm a 1 woman team and it's about to kill me and my remaining number is below 100 (maybe 90 left) being as though some have already been processed. :/ I would kill myself if I had to do this again with this many. Next time will be no more than 20. It's too much for 1 person to handle.

Although I do have enough people who will buy all of them, the problem there lies filing the orders in a timely manner. I can only take 1 maybe 2 orders at a time.

 

[kuntrygirl]

 
perchie, others can answer your questions about bleeding and keeping clean better than I, but I wanted to respond about doing it all on your own. 

I am married and have a capable other person to help out.  Who doesn't, at all (chicken-stuff at least...he can hold his own in the household in other places).  The chicken stuff is all up to me.  I will say that I think it will be very, very demanding to raise CX and make a profit, doing all the work yourself.  I raise batches of 10 CX at a time, and 10 alone is a bit taxing on me!  The butchering...the set up, the process, the cleanup...for 3 birds took 1.5 hours this weekend.  Okay, that's not much time, and most of it was set up and clean up, but 6 birds is the most I can handle butchering at one time.  I'm youngish and fit, and still find it tiring!  I think it would be very hard work to actually try to process enough birds to make a profit, if it is you and you alone doing everything.  Dang near impossible if you are otherwise working fulltime and/or have kids to take care of.  If your job is the chickens, then it might be more realistic. 

If you raised quail, that might be much easier to process in quantities all alone--no gutting, no plucking, no rib scraping for the dang lungs....basically just ripping the breast bone up and away. 

I just re-read--yes, you can easily raise and process the chickens for your own table, no problem.  I think the problem would lie in trying to process enough chickens to make money, totally by yourself.  Even with one other person to help out, the difficulties are much less. 

If I were to do it for money it would be only  the Guineas.  And I could get help for that.  There is a market for dried Guinea pelts too... Odd thing that...  At least the last time I did research on it.

deb

Do tell more about these pelts.

 

[perchie.girl]

Quote: Do tell more about these pelts.
Fly Tiers..... Here is a page that shows what whole pelts go for..... Just about anything.....

http://www.featheremporium.com/full-skins.html

FWIW a Peacock pelt goes for ..... drum roll...... 1500.00

This site shows them prepared by people who do this sort of thing. I have seen the stretched dried pelts on Ebay.

deb

 

[Coralietg]

@ $11.99 lb. That is outrageous! Doesn't it make you want to get more meat birds?

I only have 16 and I'm shocked at the amount of food they go through, I can't imagine more. In fact, I need to go start another FF batch when my oldest gets off the school bus.

My goal is to do a spring batch and a fall batch, never more than 20. I think that should be good for our family.

 

[kuntrygirl]

@ $11.99 lb. That is outrageous! Doesn't it make you want to get more meat birds?

I only have 16 and I'm shocked at the amount of food they go through, I can't imagine more. In fact, I need to go start another FF batch when my oldest gets off the school bus.

My goal is to do a spring batch and a fall batch, never more than 20. I think that should be good for our family.

I agree. And even less for a single person. :/

 

[foreverlearning]

Fly Tiers..... Here is a page that shows what whole pelts go for..... Just about anything.....

http://www.featheremporium.com/full-skins.html

FWIW a Peacock pelt goes for ..... drum roll...... 1500.00

This site shows them prepared by people who do this sort of thing. I have seen the stretched dried pelts on Ebay.

deb

I think we are in the wrong line of work! Can you eat them or use them for anything else? It would be a shame to skin them and not have a use for the rest. Where do people come up with these ideas?

 

[kuntrygirl]

 

 

 

perchie, others can answer your questions about bleeding and keeping clean better than I, but I wanted to respond about doing it all on your own. 


I am married and have a capable other person to help out.  Who doesn't, at all (chicken-stuff at least...he can hold his own in the household in other places).  The chicken stuff is all up to me.  I will say that I think it will be very, very demanding to raise CX and make a profit, doing all the work yourself.  I raise batches of 10 CX at a time, and 10 alone is a bit taxing on me!  The butchering...the set up, the process, the cleanup...for 3 birds took 1.5 hours this weekend.  Okay, that's not much time, and most of it was set up and clean up, but 6 birds is the most I can handle butchering at one time.  I'm youngish and fit, and still find it tiring!  I think it would be very hard work to actually try to process enough birds to make a profit, if it is you and you alone doing everything.  Dang near impossible if you are otherwise working fulltime and/or have kids to take care of.  If your job is the chickens, then it might be more realistic. 


If you raised quail, that might be much easier to process in quantities all alone--no gutting, no plucking, no rib scraping for the dang lungs....basically just ripping the breast bone up and away. 


I just re-read--yes, you can easily raise and process the chickens for your own table, no problem.  I think the problem would lie in trying to process enough chickens to make money, totally by yourself.  Even with one other person to help out, the difficulties are much less. 

If I were to do it for money it would be only  the Guineas.  And I could get help for that.  There is a market for dried Guinea pelts too... Odd thing that...  At least the last time I did research on it.


deb

Do tell more about these pelts.

Fly Tiers.....  Here is a page that shows what whole pelts go for.....  Just about anything.....

http://www.featheremporium.com/full-skins.html

FWIW a Peacock pelt goes for .....   drum roll......  1500.00

This site shows them prepared by people who do this sort of thing.  I have seen the stretched dried pelts on Ebay.

deb

All I can say is WOW! I'm speechless. I had no idea!!!

 

[perchie.girl]

Quote: Strictly for crafting and artwork AND for people who Tie Flys for Fly fishing. You know youcan ask anything you want for something Wether or not you get it is another thing.

I want to give Guinea pelts a try if I do some processing of my own. Their feathers are SOOOO pretty even the ones you pick up in the yard can be used for making earrings and artsy stuff.

deb