15 Dead So Far... Bloody Stool in 6 Week Old Chicks....

[mithious]

I have a question, how do chicks get cocci? Especially if they are not outside? Also what if the chicks you have are the only chicks on the property and you aren't on anyone else's farm, ect? Can the chicks still get it? I am feeding one bag of medicated, when that runs out, I plan on an organic feed...do I still risk my chicks getting cocci? Thanks!

So very sorry for your loss. Truly hope you can find the meds and get your chicks on the mend!!!!

 

[Island Roo]

I would personally use the bleach over the simple green.. Simple green is good for a degreaser but not much of a sanitizer, Mix it to a 200 ppm solution or 1 tablespoon 6% bleach to 1 gallon of water will do this.. By the time the solution dries they should be good to go back in the coop.
You can add a bit of dish soap to the bleach to help with the cleaning .. or use the simple green to clean then sanitize with the bleach.

http://www.clorox.com/pdf/5813-50_service-bulletins.pdf

http://pods.dasnr.okstate.edu/docushare/dsweb/Get/Document-963/FAPC-116web.pdf

Just be aware that cocci cycsts are very tough to kill. Bleach will not kill them. Never tried it myself but ammonia will.

 

[Island Roo]

I have a question, how do chicks get cocci? Especially if they are not outside? Also what if the chicks you have are the only chicks on the property and you aren't on anyone else's farm, ect? Can the chicks still get it? I am feeding one bag of medicated, when that runs out, I plan on an organic feed...do I still risk my chicks getting cocci? Thanks!

So very sorry for your loss. Truly hope you can find the meds and get your chicks on the mend!!!!

Chicks are always at risk. The cysts can be introduced by feeders, waterers, fingers, boots, etc. Even if they are scrubbed.

Of courses cleaning helps a lot but it does not eliminate risk.

The biggest risk if when they outside where other birds have been.

 

[mithious]

Thank you very much for your reply! It was very helpful

 

[HippieSilkies]

I'm treating my 3 seven weeks old Silkies from Cocci. One was very lethargic on Monday, but no blood on the poop. On Tuesday I toke a poop sample to my Bet and it came positive for Cocci. When I got home she was almost dead. I separated her from the other 2 because I don't want her to get stressed. I prepared 1 gallon of water for 2 teaspoon of Corid and I was giving 5cc using a syringe every 30 minutes because she was not moving. After 4 times giving Corid, she was responding. I then mixed natural yogurt and mixed with the medicated food and also gave to her a little bit every 30 minutes. I add the same to the other 2 chicks, but they were eating on their own. Yesterday she was a little bit lethargic but she was eating on her own and drinking. I then added raw garlic and DE to help her. By the end of the day no blood on her poop, she was already walking around and making some noises. Today she is much better !
At the first day I cleaned completely the coop and changed the pine shavings. Every time I go to give her the medication I m removing any poop ! Because Bleach doesn't kill the cocci, I'm using only natural products as pure oil to desinfect the coop and to keep the flies and Mosquitos away. I still giving the medication using the syringe because she is not yet 100% ok and it's important to have her drinking as much as possible of the Corid Mix. It's good also to open all the windows and doors of your coop and let the air circulated. Humidity works with cocci and it helps to spread. Make sure that you are cleaning and changing where the chicks are. If they keep eating the poop they will be eating the bacteria of cocci over and over. This is my first time raising chickens and I'm trying to learn as much as I can. If you don't have Corid, just use Raw Apple Cider Vinager until you can get the medication. ACV is a natural antibiotic.
I hope you can save all your chicks. Many blessings

 

[Mehjr10]

Chlorine can be effective and yes you can use a Quatinary Ammonia product to kill them also, its is an item that most people don't have..

This is for Dog Kennel care but applies to Chickens as well.

How to eliminate coccidia from your kennel or home?
Once infection is present in a kennel, control may be approached in two ways:- 1. identification, isolation and treatment of infected dogs. 2. mass treatment of all dogs.
Option 1 is only practical where a few dogs in a discrete area have been identified as being infected and where complete isolation is feasible, either within their own block or in a specific isolation block. Such isolation includes segregation of exercise areas and these animals should be fed and cleaned after all others on the premises, preferably using separate cleaning and feeding equipment and separate staff if possible. Treatment of all dogs should commence on the same day when option 2 is adopted.
Thorough cleaning of all kennel areas where infected dogs have access is essential. Once organic debris has been removed, thorough disinfection will help to further reduce the level of environmental contamination and reduce the risk of dogs becoming re-infected after the completion of treatment. Disinfectants containing quaternary ammonium compounds have been found to kill Coccidia oocysts at the manufacturers' recommended dilutions (dilutions of one disinfectant up to 1:704 were found to be effective at both low and high environmental temperatures). I disinfect all my kennels twice per month by washing everything down with a mixture consisting of 8 ounces of Clorox bleach per gallon of water. Make sure you let it set at least 20 minutes, rinse thoroughly, and then let it get completely dry before letting your Beagles use the kennels again. Important Note: The efficacy of killing is increased by prolonged contact time, therefore disinfectant solution should be left for 20 minutes to half an hour before being rinsed off kennel or run surfaces. Since disinfection of grass runs is impossible, such area should be regarded as contaminated for at least a month after infected dogs last had access.

 

[dejavoodoo114]

I have no where to move my chick out of the chick coop so I used just the Simple Green. The bleach fumes would be bad right? I will be heading to the co-op first thing in the morning for the corrid. Should I also treat my younger chicks who are also in the chick coop? What about the chickens in the barn? I don't have to worry about my goats from what I have heard right? There don't seem to be any more who are lethargic but I want the roos treated anyway. This was so fast and I want to take care of it while I have a few days off work.
Thanks for all of your help. I had not even considered cocci because they are not outside, the coop is brand new, and the ACV and medicated chick feed.

 

[dejavoodoo114]

Also, those that are given the corrid, will they then develop an immunity? I know all the roos were exposed. I am worried about the 6 day olds...

 

[HippieSilkies]

For whatt I had learned, I will give the Corid to all of your chicks. After treatment I was told to start ACV for a week then the following week do another treatment with Cori just to prevent. after that 1 week adding garlic in their water and their food, then the next week use ACV and take a week for a break... And start all over.... I will never use bleach or ammonia around my chickens, If I can't breath around bleach or ammonia, imagine a little chick ?
Here is a website that teaches you how to treat your chicks and keep your coop healthy with natural products and homeopathic medicine. Good luck !
http://gardentenders.com/members/XploreOrganics/blog/40

 

[Mehjr10]

   I have no where to move my chick out of the chick coop so I used just the Simple Green. The bleach fumes would be bad right? I will be heading to the co-op first thing in the morning for the corrid. Should I also treat my younger chicks who are also in the chick coop? What about the chickens in the barn? I don't have to worry about my goats from what I have heard right? There don't seem to be any more who are lethargic but I want the roos treated anyway. This was so fast and I want to take care of it while I have a few days off work.
   Thanks for all of your help. I had not even considered cocci because they are not outside, the coop is brand new, and the ACV and medicated chick feed. 

Yes you have to remove the birds from the area if you are going to sanitize it.. The older birds should be good as long as they are not showing signs and they have probably built up their immunity to it. You may have transferred the cocci on your shoes or any feeders that may have been exposed. The other animals should be ok..