1st time with chicks, please advise

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We are getting 4 or 6 (haven't decided yet) 2-week-old chicks next week. This is our first time owning chickens. We only want hens (if we guess the sex wrong and get roosters, we will immediately find them new homes) and we only want them for laying eggs and as beloved pets. I have lots of questions:

1. Any recommended chick food brand? We like to eat/feed as naturally as possible, but at the same time we can't afford the most expensive stuff on the market. Looking for good quality and good price.

2. I know to keep food available 24/7, so if I leave out a decent size bowl for 4-6 baby chicks, how often do you think I'll need to fill the bowl?

3. We live in central Florida in a neighborhood, so large predators will never be a problem. Maybe hawks, owls, and cats will be the most dangerous predators. At what age/size will it be safe to let the chicks free range in our large fenced-in back yard unattended?

4. For a first timer with new chicks, what would you recommend as far as number of chicks: 4 or 6? I've read that chickens can be aggressive with each other, and I don't want a lot for fear of them getting in fights. Would 4 be less likely to fight than 6?

5. I know their poop can be composted and put to good use. Will they poop anywhere and everywhere in the yard to where maybe I won't be able to find it in the grass? Or do they normally poop in the coop (haha) in a specific place where I can easily collect it to add to compost pile?

6. I read that to get them to lay eggs in the next box, I should put a golf ball in there so they will think it's an egg and always lay their eggs in the box like they're supposed to? Is this really true? Should I always have a golf ball in there from day 1, or wait until they are egg-laying age?

7. When do they start laying eggs?

8. Beside their regular chicken feed, how often should they have treats (healthy table scraps) and how much? What about scratch and meal worms, how often and how much? Again, we like natural and healthy, and I read somewhere that scratch is like candy...is that true?

9. I am so worried they will get mites and lice and get our dog infested then our house will be infested and everything will be disgusting. I was told that they give themselves dust baths and that's enough to keep them mite and lice free. Is that really true though? Is there any other natural preventative (besides pesticides) I can use to PREVENT mites and lice? And natural preventative to GET RID OF mites and lice if the chickens get them? If they get mites and lice, will the bugs jump on me or my family without us knowing/seeing? I am REALLY concerned about this possibility, any advice on how to prevent bug problems is much appreciated!

10. For added calcium from oyster shells, do I just put whole oyster shells in the coop in a dish or on the ground? Do they just peck at it and get calcium, or do they actually somehow eat oyster shells? How long should I leave oyster shells out there for them?

11. Is it common for them to get all these chicken diseases you read about in chicken magazines, or is disease rare and unlikely? We do not have a lot of wild birds around, other than small birds like mocking birds, blue jays, cardinals, and ground doves. There may be hawks and owls around, but we've never seen them in our yard. There are no other chicken around except far down the road and they never come out of that person's back yard. Should I vaccinate my chickens or are they probably safe from disease?

12. We have 3 cats. I will obviously keep the baby chicks safe in their coop and box while they are still small. At what age/size would it be safe for them to be around the cats? Two of our cats are very docile and I know would never try to attack the chickens, but I could see them scratching if a chicken came close to them. One cat is a meany and might try to attack? I know if the chickens fought back all 3 cats would run away. Do chickens normally defend themselves against cats or just get attacked?

14. The person I am getting the chicks from has chickens and roosters. Does this mean that the eggs my hens will eventually lay will be fertilized for sure, meaning they'll definitely hatch baby chicks if I let them get to that point? Again, we only want eggs for eating. Is there a chance that if we take the egg and leave it in the fridge for a week or so, will it have that red dot thing inside that I've been told is a baby chicken fetus and should not be eaten? Please advise on this, I don't want us to eat a bad egg or put an egg in the fridge only to crack it and find a dead baby chicken fall out. Yikes!

15. Any other suggestions or advice for a first-time chicken raiser only wanting hens for laying eggs and being sweet, cuddly pets? :)

Thank you!
 
Welcome to BYC! You should definitely check out the Learning Center, it will answer almost every question you have. It's an awesome collection of all you need to know about raising chickens. https://www.backyardchickens.com/atype/1/Learning_Center










14. The eggs your chickens will lay won't be fertilized unless you have a rooster. The eggs will taste the same fertilized as not and won't start developing into chicks unless you let a hen sit on them.
 
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Marks Chicks said:
We are getting 4 or 6 (haven't decided yet) 2-week-old chicks next week....

1. Any recommended chick food brand? We like to eat/feed as naturally as possible, but at the same time we can't afford the most expensive stuff on the market. Looking for good quality and good price.
If you don't want to pop for the high price of organic - IMO any brand will provide what they need.

2. I know to keep food available 24/7, so if I leave out a decent size bowl for 4-6 baby chicks, how often do you think I'll need to fill the bowl?
After the first week of age (when I keep light on 24/7) they only need feed and water from dawn to dusk. Chickens are night blind and don't move at night.


3. We live in central Florida in a neighborhood, so large predators will never be a problem. Maybe hawks, owls, and cats will be the most dangerous predators. At what age/size will it be safe to let the chicks free range in our large fenced-in back yard unattended?
Predators are always a problem - no matter where you live. During the day dogs and hawks are the worst. At night a whole host of animals love the taste of chickens - possums and coons among the worst. No matter where you live in North or Central America, if you think you don't have raccoons, you're kidding yourself.

4. For a first timer with new chicks, what would you recommend as far as number of chicks: 4 or 6? I've read that chickens can be aggressive with each other, and I don't want a lot for fear of them getting in fights. Would 4 be less likely to fight than 6?
One should have as many chickens as they're allowed or can reasonably house. You'll use more eggs when producing your own. After all that work, who wants to buy store eggs. Chickens die and adding more later is much harder.
They're aggressive to each other when they're crowded. Fights will happen because there is the pecking order thing in flock dynamics.

5. I know their poop can be composted and put to good use. Will they poop anywhere and everywhere in the yard to where maybe I won't be able to find it in the grass? Or do they normally poop in the coop (haha) in a specific place where I can easily collect it to add to compost pile?
Anywhere and everywhere, especially under the roost. You won't be able to collect it in the yard. It isn't like dog poop.

6. I read that to get them to lay eggs in the next box, I should put a golf ball in there so they will think it's an egg and always lay their eggs in the box like they're supposed to? Is this really true? Should I always have a golf ball in there from day 1, or wait until they are egg-laying age?
I like to have the nest ready (including a fake egg) by 16-18 weeks.

7. When do they start laying eggs?
16-28 weeks depending on breed and individual - usually 20-22 weeks depending on season. Spring/summer earlier, fall/winter later.

8. Beside their regular chicken feed, how often should they have treats (healthy table scraps) and how much? What about scratch and meal worms, how often and how much? Again, we like natural and healthy, and I read somewhere that scratch is like candy...is that true?
They don't NEED treats. People like to give them. As a general rule, anything other than a complete feed should make up no more than 5-10% of the total intake. That can be modified with good animal protein/veggies/fruits once one learns more about nutritional needs. Most chicken feed has a statement on the label that reads - 'This is a complete ration - no other supplement is needed'.

9. I am so worried they will get mites and lice and get our dog infested then our house will be infested and everything will be disgusting. I was told that they give themselves dust baths and that's enough to keep them mite and lice free. Is that really true though? Is there any other natural preventative (besides pesticides) I can use to PREVENT mites and lice? And natural preventative to GET RID OF mites and lice if the chickens get them? If they get mites and lice, will the bugs jump on me or my family without us knowing/seeing? I am REALLY concerned about this possibility, any advice on how to prevent bug problems is much appreciated!
Don't get too excited. The dust baths usually work well. Food grade DE in bedding helps.

10. For added calcium from oyster shells, do I just put whole oyster shells in the coop in a dish or on the ground? Do they just peck at it and get calcium, or do they actually somehow eat oyster shells? How long should I leave oyster shells out there for them?
Most people use crushed oyster shell in a separate container. They wouldn't know what to do with a whole oyster shell. They don't have hands or teeth so can only deal with bite size pieces.
Leave it all the time.

11. Is it common for them to get all these chicken diseases you read about in chicken magazines, or is disease rare and unlikely? We do not have a lot of wild birds around, other than small birds like mocking birds, blue jays, cardinals, and ground doves. There may be hawks and owls around, but we've never seen them in our yard. There are no other chicken around except far down the road and they never come out of that person's back yard. Should I vaccinate my chickens or are they probably safe from disease?
Disease isn't common if they have space, clean environment, fresh water, good nutrition and BIG VENTILATION.

12. We have 3 cats. I will obviously keep the baby chicks safe in their coop and box while they are still small. At what age/size would it be safe for them to be around the cats? Two of our cats are very docile and I know would never try to attack the chickens, but I could see them scratching if a chicken came close to them. One cat is a meany and might try to attack? I know if the chickens fought back all 3 cats would run away. Do chickens normally defend themselves against cats or just get attacked?
Hungry cats can and will take a large fowl but not normally a problem.

14. The person I am getting the chicks from has chickens and roosters. Does this mean that the eggs my hens will eventually lay will be fertilized for sure, meaning they'll definitely hatch baby chicks if I let them get to that point? Again, we only want eggs for eating. Is there a chance that if we take the egg and leave it in the fridge for a week or so, will it have that red dot thing inside that I've been told is a baby chicken fetus and should not be eaten? Please advise on this, I don't want us to eat a bad egg or put an egg in the fridge only to crack it and find a dead baby chicken fall out. Yikes!
An egg won't be fertile unless the hen that lays it is mated by a rooster. Just like people. A pullet egg can't possibly be fertilized by her father many miles away.
Even if fertilized by a rooster mounting the pullet that laid it, an egg left in the refrigerator will never develop. A fertilized egg needs to be kept in the range of development for many hours before cell division begins. That's about 84-102 degrees. An unfertilized egg will never develop regardless of temperature.
Even if you have a rooster, you'll never notice the difference in eggs if you collect daily.

15. Any other suggestions or advice for a first-time chicken raiser only wanting hens for laying eggs and being sweet, cuddly pets? :)
For sweet cuddly pets, get calm breeds. Give big ventilation and all will be well.

Thank you!
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Hi and welcome to BYC from northern Michigan
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I would also recommend a trip to the Learning Center.
 
Chicken Canoe, your responses were so helpful, thank you! A couple remaining questions:

1. Our coop dimensions: 9.5' length x 5.5' width x 8' height (sloped down to 7' in the back). The run is 6.5' x 5.5', and the enclosed coop is 3' x 5.5'. Based on those dimensions, does that give you a better idea for how many chickens you think would fit comfortably without feeling crowded? Again, I'm thinking 4. My husband thinks 6. The lady we're getting the baby chicks from says 8 would be fine. I'm thinking about the number of nest boxes that will fit in the coop, and I can't picture how more than 4 next boxes would fit. We haven't built in the nest boxes yet. About how big should a nest box be anyway? If we stack them (like 3 nest boxes on top of 3), how do the chickens get up the top ones if they are a couple feet up? Flap/fly up there, or do they need a ramp to walk up to them?

2. For cleanliness, you recommended food grade DE. Should I just sprinkle it directly on the chickens, or in their nest boxes only, or throughout the coop and run? I am familiar with what DE is and its uses, but have never actually used it or even seen it. On another note, do you have any idea if DE is good for a dog with itchy flaky skin? He is flea-free and eats a really good quality salmon dog food. But every summer in the heat (we live in Florida, he is a shepard mix, 9 years old) he gets itchy flaky skin all around his rump. Someone suggested DE but I haven't tried it yet since I don't think fleas are the problem. Is it good for anything else beside pest control?

3. I have read a wide range of average chicken ages, anywhere from 3 years to 30 years. What is an accurate average age for a hen? The ones I am getting are Aracauna (sp?) / Cochin mix, will be free-range in our large fenced yard, cooped at night, live in Florida, will feed them good feed and keep them and their coop clean.

Thank you everyone for your helpfulness! 4 days until I bring home the baby chicks! So excited!! :)
 

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