2 dead in coop, seemingly no injury or entry.

[AllenK RGV]

Yes. If you are importing live birds they need to be quarantined for 30 days, at your expense, at an approved USDA facility (NYC or Miami). Plus the hoops the European breeder has to jump through.

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ou.../import-live-animals/SA_Avian/CT_live_poultry

Thanks I had hoped it would be the same as our pets on the multiple occasions we went each direction over the pond.

 

[AllenK RGV]

And the regulations for hatching eggs

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ou...a_entry_requirements/sa_avian/ct_poultry_eggs

I imagine we could call them pets according to that site then they are excepted. Veteraniry certificates aren't that hard to come by in Germany.

Regardless sounds like to much expense/hassle. Looking at the APHIS list there isn't a single EU country listed.

 

[Rachael<3Chickies]

There was a lot of activity on here since I last checked this morning!

I really appreciate everyone who has taken the time to write their thoughts about the deaths. It is always warming to hear how much other people care about chickens as well. Keep in mind, however, that my main points of confusion are whether the roo, predator, or illness most likely resulted in the deaths without injury, and as an update the scalping confused me because I have never seen that. I hope it nice to hear that I have never seen that because I myself do things differently than my best friend, whom this incident happened to. I don't have some of these experiences but I personally have chosen to build a privacy fenced in acre with a 20' walk in run with apron and a converted shed for less than ten chickens. I have a coop just for introductions and I love watching my chickens to learn how they interact. So if anyone can sway my friend to take more precautions for their safety and comfort, it would be me. Lol

I'm not sure if I mentioned this or not but the smallest one that ran away with her new introductions was spotted by the road amdntrash up from their house and was caught and brought home to me. After a good meal she is doing well with two others her age and is not being introduced to my flock at this time until they get older and the scalped chicken is in my friends bathroom with antibiotics on stand-by and is eating and drinking well. I hope whatever got the two in the coop is over and all is well.

 

[Rachael<3Chickies]

And I hope the roo behaves this summer bc he was my first chicken ever and I want him to have a great life.

 

[cottontail farm]

Maybe I am naive I just assumed it would be the same as bringing in a dog/cat from Germany. We have done that several times in the past in 2007 and 2013. Just have their passport and health certificates. Is there something more involved?

Wait, you mean animals are actually issued passports for travel? I had no idea. Like with tiny pictures and everything? Oh my goodnesz.

 

[Folly's place]

Passports, microchips, health certificates, and more. Lots of issues with moveing critters across borders, and with good reasons. It's expensive, but way cheaper than introducing a foreign disease!
Mary

 

[keesmom]

I imagine we could call them pets according to that site then they are excepted. Veteraniry certificates aren't that hard to come by in Germany.

Regardless sounds like to much expense/hassle. Looking at the APHIS list there isn't a single EU country listed.

I'm sure someone has tried to claim their therapy chicken/duck/turkey/peacock is a pet and not subject to the import requirements. The USDA put an end to that:

The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) defines poultry to include chickens, doves, ducks, geese, grouse, guinea fowl, partridges, pea fowl, pheasants, pigeons, quail, swans, and turkeys. All birds of these species are subject to the import requirements for poultry, and are not considered by the USDA to be pet birds.

 

[AllenK RGV]

Wait, you mean animals are actually issued passports for travel? I had no idea. Like with tiny pictures and everything? Oh my goodnesz.

In the EU we maintained health/vaccination passports for all of our animals to make crossing borders or air travel easier. All were microchiped, vaccinated against everything and the usual yada yada!

Every time we would come back to the US for a few weeks/years our animals joined us. It made things much easier. Just needed to do the vet visit and get the forms signed and stamped!

----edit---we didn't have chicken then.

 

[AllenK RGV]

Wait, you mean animals are actually issued passports for travel? I had no idea. Like with tiny pictures and everything? Oh my goodnesz.

Hehe our EU passports didn't have photos, just chip ID and vaccinations. They are issued by a vet. This was just a EU thing that came in around post 2004 it was a requirement according to my wife for "Shengen?" travel with a pet. EU Heimtierausweis.