2015 breeding season

[KsKingBee]

Yup I would let it rest for a while, how does he look, kicking and squirming or just plain wore out?

No kicking or squirming, just breathing. A little wing movement, not much. I am just glad it is still breathing, the blood loss had me worried.

 

[thndrdancr]

If it starts struggling you might straight his head out. He is not positioned that he could pip that membrane but I can't tell you what's wrong exactly, that's Kathys department. I do hope he makes it, it's always a crap shoot! But at least you gave him fighting chance.

I would sure feel better if he were wiggling.

 

[DylansMom]

If it starts struggling you might straight his head out. He is not positioned that he could pip that membrane but I can't tell you what's wrong exactly, that's Kathys department. I do hope he makes it, it's always a crap shoot! But at least you gave him fighting chance.

I would sure feel better if he were wiggling.

Yes, if you can, work that head loose and out of the shell, nothing more though. It could still suffocate like this, it often takes these guys awhile to come around, and you could very well end up with some oxygen deprivation issues as well, remember my "Forest" last year? Took him about 5 days to come around and he had vision problems and perhaps a bit of brain damage( he was definitely "slow"). In my experience most who do not make the internal pip themselves do not make it. I have gotten lots of them out and to the point where they were laying there head out & body still in, and had them never come around and slowly fade away. But that's most, not all, if you do this several times you will eventually decide if you think it's worth the try or not.

 

[zazouse]

 

[KsKingBee]

Yes, if you can, work that head loose and out of the shell, nothing more though. It could still suffocate like this, it often takes these guys awhile to come around, and you could very well end up with some oxygen deprivation issues as well, remember my "Forest" last year? Took him about 5 days to come around and he had vision problems and perhaps a bit of brain damage( he was definitely "slow"). In my experience most who do not make the internal pip themselves do not make it. I have gotten lots of them out and to the point where they were laying there head out & body still in, and had them never come around and slowly fade away. But that's most, not all, if you do this several times you will eventually decide if you think it's worth the try or not.

I remember last year you weren't going to help any out, and that was my intention, but Jill made me do it.

I am glad she talked me into/through it. Thank you @thndrdancr !

This morning the chick was moving its wing and kicking a bit so I chipped and pealed the edge of the shell where it was stuck. I was afraid it was going to start bleeding again but did not. The yolk had been absorbed but the navel was rough so I put some Neosporin on it and laid it on a paper towel back in the hatcher. It looks like it will need shoes after it gets some more rest, at least it isn't one of those crazy rollers.

I need to get the hatcher cleaned up and ready for the next batch that are due Monday. I candled them a couple of days ago, the hatch rate isn't going to be as good as the broodies were.

 

[DylansMom]

I remember last year you weren't going to help any out, and that was my intention, but Jill made me do it.

I am glad she talked me into/through it. Thank you @thndrdancr !

This morning the chick was moving its wing and kicking a bit so I chipped and pealed the edge of the shell where it was stuck. I was afraid it was going to start bleeding again but did not. The yolk had been absorbed but the navel was rough so I put some Neosporin on it and laid it on a paper towel back in the hatcher. It looks like it will need shoes after it gets some more rest, at least it isn't one of those crazy rollers.

I need to get the hatcher cleaned up and ready for the next batch that are due Monday. I candled them a couple of days ago, the hatch rate isn't going to be as good as the broodies were.

My intention was not to help any that hadn't made the internal pip themselves, because that just never works for me.

Forest had me fooled, I thought for sure I could see his beak sticking through the membrane, so I opened the shell and he was really struggling, so I couldn't help myself. He was definitely a special needs chick and I consider myself incredibly lucky that I found a family that in their words " can't resist an underdog story". I would have done my best of course, but you know how brutal birds can be when they realize one of their own is weaker. If they make the internal pip themselves and then get stuck I am all in for helping, because I've had great success with those.

I have 5 set so far and all are fertile and developing.

 

[casportpony]

@KsKingBee , looks like you gave this one a fighting chance! Is the head out yet?

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

The chick is breathing, it almost looks labored.



I put it back into the hatcher. I think I can see blood in the membrane where it comes into contact with the shell, way down in there.

Excellent pictures!

-Kathy

 

[KsKingBee]

@KsKingBee , looks like you gave this one a fighting chance! Is the head out yet?

-Kathy

I yanked it out a couple of hours ago. It is resting on its back now, not trying to move, just sleeping.

 

[casportpony]

If it starts struggling you might straight his head out. He is not positioned that he could pip that membrane but I can't tell you what's wrong exactly, that's Kathys department. I do hope he makes it, it's always a crap shoot! But at least you gave him fighting chance.

I would sure feel better if he were wiggling.

I'm still a novice at this, but I've been honing my hatching/candling/assisting skills with my duck and chicken eggs.

-Kathy