3'X3' house with 3'x8' covered run for bantams?

[perchie.girl]

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Hmmm.....

9 divided by 4 = 2 and 1/4 So that would be 2.25 large chickens in a 3 x 3.

according to the following thread I am seeing 3 square feet per bantam.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=2603572

So that would be three bantams in a 3x3 coop

so four square feet per large breed and 10 square feet run space
and three square feet per bantam what would the runspace be for a bantam or R.

3/4=R/10
10x(3/4)=R
R=7.5

So the square footage for a run for bantams proportionately would be 7.5 square feet per bird.

Still looks like three birds to me. Sorry Im a math geek and certainly others will have more practical points of view.

 

[perchie.girl]

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For a coop 10 x 10 should be good for about 25 large chickens.

100 square feet divided by four = 25

for a run 10 x 10 would be good for 10 chickens

100 square feet divided by ten = 10

 

[perchie.girl]

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A 10x10 is 100 sq ft. I have read on here that 4 sq ft per bird is all one needs. So a 10x10 should be good for 25 birds right?

You got it.... for a coop

 

[perchie.girl]

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For some reason I was thinking smokey meant in the run?? Anyhow, keep in mind that the 4 sq. ft. housing and 10 sq. ft. run space are minimums and generalizations. Birds in year round warm weather areas can get by with less housing space, but may want more run space. Cold winter places (decent snows) would benefit from MORE indoor space. You can never have too much space for your chickens, only too little space... Some give bantams half the space of LF birds, but many give them the same amount of space. Either way, that's a tight space (both housing and run) for 5 bantams.

I stay so confused. Like a chicken runin around with its head cut off.

LOL.... I do that often .... too often

 

[perchie.girl]

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Woo hoo another math geek....

 

[nuchickontheblock]

I have absolutely no math ability LOL.

But, this winter we had 3 bantams in a 3x5 tractor style coop with an enclosed pen underneath. In that space we also had nest boxes (one girl or other seemed to be broody and hogging a nest box at all times, so we needed two), food, water, and a ramp going down to the pen. So actual usable walk-around "floor space" was about 3 square feet. With the amount of snow and cold, they would go down into the pen, but refused to go into the outside run much of the time and it was pretty small and cramped for them.

Bigger is definitely better!

This Spring we are building a bigger coop -- 5 x 6 -- so that in the winter there will be more room when them need to be indoors. It also will be large enough for us to walk into and hopefully get a few more girls at some point. Our city has a limit to 6 hens, so chicken math can't get tooooooo out of of control.

 

[elmo]

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I have only bantams, and I really don't agree with the idea that because bantams are smaller, they require less space. They move around just as much as a standard size chicken, have just as much need for exercise and activity in their environment, and perhaps more to the point, have the same kinds of social structure (pecking order) as the big girls. 4 square feet is such a tiny space as it is; I personally would not try to go below that.

Some of the bantam chicken breeds can have quite spunky personalities. If you cram too many of them in a small space, there will be blood.

 

[Markp1964]

I appreciate everyone's input.

Just to be clear, we don't have any birds yet, so this would not be a matter or cramming them in, when we get chicks and they are past the brooder phase they would all grow up in this or what ever housing we pick. We are going to limit the number of chicks we keep based on the space we have can give them.

From what I have been able to read, most hens don't want to go out when rain or snow is falling, but cold does not bother them. Thats why I thought a covered run would be an inmortant part of this set up-it woul dbe an open air, predator safe part of the house and add to the total of usable square feet. Nine square feet of tightly enclosed space in the house is snug, but a 3 x 8 run gives some elbow room-a total of 33 square feet if my math is right.

 

[Elite Silkies]

Your main concern on sq ft per bird in my opinion is going to be the amount of droppings. A small area will build up ammonia fast, which is not good for the birds at all. It will make them sick. Unless, you plan on cleaning the coop and the run on an every other day basis, I would go larger. Birds love to scratch and they need room, or all they are going to be scratching in is thier own poo. If you wanting to go that small, then I suggest a Mobile Chicken Tractor, so you can move them to different spots daily.

 

[RGWright]

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I have only bantams, and I really don't agree with the idea that because bantams are smaller, they require less space. They move around just as much as a standard size chicken, have just as much need for exercise and activity in their environment, and perhaps more to the point, have the same kinds of social structure (pecking order) as the big girls. 4 square feet is such a tiny space as it is; I personally would not try to go below that.

Some of the bantam chicken breeds can have quite spunky personalities. If you cram too many of them in a small space, there will be blood.

We're speaking of the coop/hen house alone. Yes, they do move around and need as much space. You're completely correct. But, what we're talking about here is the mass of the body. They are 25% smaller, which means less mass, thus less space is required. This would allow them to have the same space as a full size chicken, per volume. Would you also give 4 square feet for each blue bird just because they also move around, even though they move around just as much? I would hope not, but it's for the individual to make a decision on. My decision is based on mass, and what is required.