4 Day Old Chick with Prolapsed Vent

Natanya

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I ordered five silkie chicks from Cackle Hatchery, they were hatched and shipped 8/2, and six arrived on 8/4. The day the chicks arrived I checked all of their vents and two needed cleaned. I found one had a badly prolapsed vent, and the other had what looked like a more mildly prolapsed vent or some form of hemorrhoid.

The one with the mild prolapse I'm no too worried about, it's pooping normally, its vent region is staying more or less clean, and the other chicks aren't paying it's rear any mind.

I'm really worried about the heavily prolapsed chick, who I've dubbed "Broken Butt" for the time being.

The first day I disinfected the area around the birds' vents with Betadine and applied some topical aspirin which did wonders to reduce their swelling. The vent of the lesser prolapsed chick looked indistinguishable from the vents of the other chicks, and Broken Butt's vent only looked slightly swollen, as opposed to having a bulging prolapse.

I've since read that aspirin isn't a wise treatment for vent prolapse as it's a blood thinner and can worsen bleeding, so I stopped applying aspirin and instead switched to witch hazel and Preparation H.

I tried reinserting the prolapsed tissue as advised by every prolapse treatment I've read or watched, using an appropriately sized paintbrush handle lubricated with copious amounts of Prep H, using the technique demonstrated in this video:

Unfortunately, unlike the calm hen in the video I was following, my tiny bird was distressed by the whole engagement and was feeling chilled, and every peep after I removed the paintbrush handle caused the tissue to slip right back out, and repeated attempts to get the tissue to stay in made no progress and only aggravated the tissue, leaving the area more swollen. This was late at night, and tired and emotionally drained by my failed attempts to fix the chick's broken butt, I went ahead and fed the chick a size-appropriate dose of aspirin to hopefully alleviate the pain he was obviously feeling after all the manipulation of his prolapse, and headed to bed.

This morning the bird's butt was covered in dried poop again and the vent looking as angry and swollen as ever. I cleaned the poop, disinfected with Betadine, dabbed the area with witch hazel, and liberally applied Prep H to the region, using the ointment to hold back his butt feathers away from his vent so his poop would stop being caught in them.

Questions
1) Should I try aspirin again, since it's the only thing I've found to have a positive effect?
2) Can baby birds leave their phallus extruded? Am I mistaking the "lesser prolapsed" bird's boy parts for a prolapse?
3) At what point can I know the chick is a lost cause, and it's time to cull him?

Comments
We ordered five Sebrights as well, and Cackle sent six. Unfortunately one had something gravely wrong with it, and after several tube feedings it condition had only worsened and it had lost weight, so I culled it through beheading.

If I have to cull the silkie with the broken butt I will, but I'd like some input from people with more experience before killing a bird that's still active and eating and drinking normally. Seems a waste.

He's also adorable and just as curious and personable as the other chicks, and he seems to have fabulous plumage. At this point in their development I doubt I could tell much about what their adult plumage, but he has the best foot feathering and the best formed top knot. I'm conflicted, because even if this chick survives I'm not going to want to breed a bird with a possibly congenitally deformed cloaca, and he can't live without the risk of prolapse reoccurring. This prolapse early in life will especially be an issue if this bird, which I'm pretty sure is male judging by what I'm seeing slipping out his vent, turns out to be a hen. She couldn't ever safely lay, I'd have to put her down.

Whatever happens I'm going to enjoy my time with my healthy chicks, I just wish I didn't happen to have this ill chick to fret over.

Thank you in advance for reading and any comments.
 
Can you post a picture of the vent? He won't have a protruding phallus because chickens don't have phalluses, so that's not a problem :)
 
What? Chickens don't have phalluses? My whole life has been a lie! I was taught at a young age that roosters are one of the few birds in the world that have phallusues! If they don't have phalluses then how does vent sexing work?

Looking into it they don't have a proper phallus, but they do have papillae. The papillae are probably what vent sexers are looking for. I do believe I'm seeing the symmetrical papillae in this birb's vent.
http://articles.extension.org/pages/65373/avian-reproductive-systemmale

I'll get pictures soon.
 
There's a very slight difference in male and female anatomy down there. This is really oversimplifying it, but males have a tiny bump that vent sexers can see, and females don't. And there are tons of different ways that can manifest, so that's why vent sexing chicks is only 90% accurate even when done by experts. So yes, it is probably the papillae they are looking for. Examples:

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Fascinating. Thanks for that diagram, it clears up a lot of questions I had about what that region should look like in males and females.

Regarding my bird, I think wonder if actually have something other than a prolapse on my hands. I'm not seeing everted tissue; rather the chick's cloaca has formed a protruding tube that somewhat resembles an elephan't trunk:
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It makes me wonder if the reason I wasn't seeing much difference after prolapse treatment was because this isn't a prolapse. Could it be a different deformity? Or possibly swelling or abscess due to injury or infection?

Do some chickens just have outy-cloacas when they're young, not entirely unlike a human's outy belly button? That seems unlikely, especially since this little bird is having problems due to its strangely shaped butthole.

I'm suddenly less sure of this babe's sex as well, knowing more about what it should look like.

I'm still very concerned, especially since this may not be the issue I initially thought it was.
 
I just finished up with another attempt to treat for a prolapsed vent. The chick was much more calm and the area seemed much less inflamed today than it did yesterday, and I had some success pressing the tissue back where it seems it should be. For a few glorious seconds the baby's vent resembled something like a normal vent, only slightly more bulgey- not very toned, but as soon as I righted the chick again it peeped and everything slid right back out.

I pressed it back in and held everything in for five minutes, checking occasionally to make sure the alignment was okay and making adjustments as necessary, and a short break for the chick to poop.

This was the first time the chick showed the ability to pucker it's rear like normal and it seems like if the chick had the wherewithal and/or the muscle tone it would be able to hold its own prolapse in place.

Now it's time for a little more oral aspirin for the bird and some diphenhydramine for me to help clear up my congested sinuses, then I'm off to bed.
 
Update. Broken Butt's vent now only protrudes half way as far out as it did two days ago, topical application of aspirin seems to really make a difference. I'm sure the chick's growth and muscle development are doing most of the work, but aspirin seems to make it possible by reducing inflammation in the region.

After trimming the feathers that were catching poo in that region most of Broken Butt's droppings are able to clear his body, so I don't have to pay as much attention to keeping dried feces off of his rear. That's a big relief. A check in the morning and a check in the afternoon seems to be enough to catch the problem crusties.

A treatment of Poop-off->Prep H->topical aspirin is working, slowly.
 
Hi Natanya
Thanks for photos. I found baby chick peeping in neighbor yard. Thought something had bit it and sqooshed out intestines. It was that same elephant trunk description. So I was wondering what your aspirin recipe and dose is. I put honey on it and pushed it in with qtip so hopefully is ok but will have to see. This is before and after. How is your bird? IMG_20180902_093926737.jpg IMG_20180902_095720911.jpg
 

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