4th Annual BYC NYD Hatch-a-long

[Razadia]

It is good you are asking for help, this needs to be fixed pretty soon, or you might have infection.

A few questions first

Where are these birds housed? Inside? outside? deep litter?
Are they isolated?
How long has this been going on?
what do you feed?

In the mean time as a suggestion..

Wash the birds and get those legs and feet clean. Put some Pine oil on or NuStock even vaseline might work

Ferment some poultry pellets and add vitamin B
Add UPACV to drinking water
his might help and it certainly will not hurt like some chemicals and drugs might.

Right now they live in a wire bottom cage with a wood roof (I think it was an old rabbit cage). We tried putting them in the coop with our older game birds for a while, but they didn't like it and refused to come out of the coop even though our older birds didn't bother them. They have another cage on top of their's with another roo and hen in it, but they never have an contact with them. It's been getting prograssivly worst since we first got them from a friend. I thought it was leg mites and treated it as such for a week and a half (longer than it took for me to get rid of them on Freddie) and we thought we got rid of them. I still think we did because these aren't scales sticking up. It almost looks like skin cells growing over the scales. We were feeding them nutrena's gamefowl feed, but the price got to be way too much so now we feed them sweet feed and scratch like everyone else.

I'm still going to try your suggestion to see if it works. Dad loves how friendly these two are and I'd hate to lose them because I can't figure out what's going on.

Razadia, from what I can find on the internet, it does look like scaly leg mites but a bad long term problem. I found this website and one of the things they wrote which is good to remember, that is "It is important to note that it takes several months for the scales of the legs to become raised and consequently to heal again after treatment." Which means this will take treatment and a bit of time to heal. No quick fixes I guess. Make sure they don't infect your other birds!

https://sites.google.com/a/poultrypedia.com/poultrypedia/poultry-podiatry

Thanks for the link. I saved it and I'm looking over it right now.

 

[ronott1]

Quote: I do not think the malposition of Break away from air cell is the same as seeing a detached aircell. It is a Malposition that you look for at eggtopsy to help you figure out why the chick did not hatch. If they are in a bad position for hatching, there is usually something wrong with the chick, not your incubation.

Also, saying something is 5 times more common in up right eggs as to flat eggs does not really tell you which is better. .0.1 to .05? You would not even notice that In your hatches.

Stick with placing shipped egg with the big end up. They really do better that way. Locally collected or your own eggs, lay them flat if you want to. They may do better that way but they hatch fine with the big end up too.

 

[ChooksChick]

*cough* *choke* *wheeze* *gasp*

I abandoned all of you. I'm so sorry!! I missed out on all of the fun!

My grandmother moved in with me with less than a week's notice, and it was impossible. She's blind, can't really walk, and I was led to believe that she was not showing the dementia that I feared I was hearing over the phone- hadn't seen her in over a year.

Well, she was a lot worse off than what I was told, and she arrived with a case of bronchitis which swiftly put her into the hospital. Fortunately we do have a resident BYC nurse in our local hospital, so I was able to talk poultry with Tweety's Voice while in the ER for 10 hours. Grandma was admitted but was combatant while she was there unless I was with her, so my hubby had to manage the house, the farm, etc. It was very tough. God bless that man!

After a week, she was dismissed, and during the 'incarceration' as she called it, I found a skilled nursing facility to move her to. It's just not possible to care for her here.

SO: I hatched 25 birds, but don't know what or when, because another BYCer came to the house and took them away to care for them at her home. God bless Jordana!!!

I'm now wishing I could stop all of the chicken madness and just rest for a month, but it's 9 degrees out and I have to haul hot water 11 miles out to the farm so everyone has something to drink, and I'm out of feed, so I have to go to the mill. I do have a broody on eggs in the mud room (Silkies, she could never keep them warm enough outside) and 2 coops full of chicks out back...but I still put more eggs in yesterday. I'm nuts. Certifiable. Completely crackers.

My Chocolate LF Ameraucana project are nearly ready to lay. I'm beside myself about that one. The Chocolate Marans project is right behind them. The d'Uccles are behind those, but I've known d'Uccles to lay young. I can't stop, right!?

Anyway, I'll back up and skim to see what everyone ended up with, and I'll play along better next time. I'll try not to get bronchitis, too. The gift that keeps on giving...

 

[Fuzzybird]

The short story contest has 2 winners... Myself and Kvmommy!!! CPL notified us, but no one posted it on the site... I have no idea about the Holiday CHicken Photo contest, though...


Congrats to you both!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

The short story contest has 2 winners... Myself and Kvmommy!!! CPL notified us, but no one posted it on the site... I have no idea about the Holiday CHicken Photo contest, though...


Congrats to you both!

Congrats!

This Contest stuff is getting even stranger by the week!
Glad you all know what went down and how it went down!
And we were all waiting for all these polls like the contest states : ( A BYC poll will be made with the entries for voting.????
I know I cant complain, but I just think an explaination should be given because alot of others were waiting for this stuff.

ADDING and because I am getting alot of pms behind the thread KNOWING no one wants to speak up for fear of upset. : (

 

[ronott1]

Quote: Oh Yes, but it keeps me coming back to this thread! Usually this far past hatch, the thread dies.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: I do not think the malposition of Break away from air cell is the same as seeing a detached aircell. It is a Malposition that you look for at eggtopsy to help you figure out why the chick did not hatch. If they are in a bad position for hatching, there is usually something wrong with the chick, not your incubation.

Also, saying something is 5 times more common in up right eggs as to flat eggs does not really tell you which is better. .0.1 to .05? You would not even notice that In your hatches.

Stick with placing shipped egg with the big end up. They really do better that way. Locally collected or your own eggs, lay them flat if you want to. They may do better that way but they hatch fine with the big end up too.

What I am finding in my research today is that in majority of data, setting eggs vertically and laying at hatch it the best route to go, almost all hatcheries do it this way now.... Most hatcheries are switching to the tray that can hold the egg vertacle and then drop and auto lay them on their sides when moved to hatchroom.... but there is no suggestions on malpositions as far as veriticle vs hrozontal. so

Found more info on some of the testing reports..... makes sense too!

Day 18 laying horizontal for actual hatching helps a chick hatch 1-2 hours earlier.
The hatching position, with each egg lying on its side, is commonly accepted as the most conductive to efficient hatching, and the freedom of the egg to shift or roll at least to some slight degree appears to contribute to the ease and facility with which the chicks may fracture the shell by pecking to emerge from.​

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: Oh Yes, but it keeps me coming back to this thread! Usually this far past hatch, the thread dies.
OMG what will we do then????
WHERE IS EVERYONE GOING TO GO or has gone, BESIDES the swap thread???????? I am not up for the swap thread yet.

Anyone can join in with us on the incubating thread listed in my signature ....

we have quite a few who check in daily and help newbes with hatching and we have some younger gals on there that we are also trying to help and get better set up with their homemade bators and incubating tecniques..... so we want to keep it alive.... plus its sweet to always have someone there you know when you need help with anything! love those gals and guys!! https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/704328/diary-notes-air-cell-detatched-shipped-eggs



oh and RON I cleaned up the hatching 101 article did you notice??????? thoughts????

 

[Brookhavens]

I hear you on the turning, I purchased those plastic egg trays and will be cutting one down to fit in the coolerbator and when I turn I will just lift one end of the whole darn bator or if there is room at least do the same with tilting the tray. I dont want a homemade turner in it, because I like all that space! yea I know true addict.

Sally you will love the egg trays. I eventually took out the turner I made from PVC and replaced it with egg trays. I was able to get 1 1/2 trays in there nicely. TIlting the bator itself was the way I went and I never had to open up the bator except for candling.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: Well Thanks for waiting so long to share that!!! LMAO!!