A Bielefelder Thread !

[DesertChic]

I never had raw milk myself, but I heard from many people that our current pasteurized milk is bad for us in many ways. I was told that milk has enzymes in it to help it be digestible. The pasteurization process kills those good enzymes along with harmful bacteria, so many people have stomach issues &/or inflammation after drinking milk. Is this true? If I lived in a town where goats were not illegal, I'd certainly want to taste some. A friend grew up on fresh warm goats' milk daily. In fact, she never had cold cow milk until moving to college. (She hated it & still won't drink it today.) LOL

Yes, it is 100% true. The milk we buy in grocery stores is horrible for human consumption....not that humans evolved to drink milk from another animal anyway.

My son had terrible, terrible acne and we tried all sorts of treatments, including prescriptions from more than one dermatologist. Finally I took him off of all dairy since we don't have access to raw milk. Within two weeks his skin had cleared up almost completely and now he only has a rare pimple. Several of his friends begged to know what he was using for his skin, and after telling him about his dietary changes a few of them also gave it a shot with GREAT results. It's been years since we've had milk. We still consume cheese, but I purchase raw cheese whenever possible and use is modestly rather than indulgently now.

 

[DesertChic]

Raw milk tastes very different and if you drink it the first time, don't drink a gallon. The texture of the fat and the enzymes in it is not easy to process for a unlearned stomach. So many people get light diarrhea from raw milk the first time. The body doesn't know what to do with it and tries to get rid of it, especially if your mom hadn't the chance to breast feed you as a baby.
But many people say that it helps against health problems like ADS, b/c the cows produce a natural and mild sedativ to make the calf quite and content. And after a while you will notice that raw milk is great if you have problems to sleep or if you are stressed or nervous.
I know it sounds like a conspiarcy theory but think of all the money people spend for pills that help them to sleep or to calm down. And now think about the money farmers could make selling raw milk to those people and the only side effect is that you have to go to the bathroom if you overdose.

When my husband was a kid his mom kept dairy goats. One of their neighbors had a baby that had severe digestive problems. The mother had some medical issues that prevented her from breast feeding, but her baby couldn't stomach the baby formula and began to waste away. My mother-in-law supplied them with fresh, raw goat's milk and that baby immediately stopped having tummy troubles and began to thrive. No drugs or other treatments were required....just that raw milk.

 

[Sylvester017]

I never had raw milk myself, but I heard from many people that our current pasteurized milk is bad for us in many ways. I was told that milk has enzymes in it to help it be digestible. The pasteurization process kills those good enzymes along with harmful bacteria, so many people have stomach issues &/or inflammation after drinking milk. Is this true? If I lived in a town where goats were not illegal, I'd certainly want to taste some. A friend grew up on fresh warm goats' milk daily. In fact, she never had cold cow milk until moving to college. (She hated it & still won't drink it today.) LOL

My folks had a Holstein that produced more milk than we could ever use for a family of 3!! Mom would skim the raw milk for cream, made butter, sour cream/yogurt, and cheese was always hanging in cheesecloth draining excess moisture on the back porch. She couldn't keep up with how much milk the cow produced daily and finally had to sell her off. Mom tried goats but I didn't like the taste of goat's milk compared to the rich creamy sweet cow's milk. Goat milk has a slight odor that cow's milk doesn't but if you have it every day you can get accustomed to the taste or else make cheese out of it. Goat cheese on pizza is great! Better than cow cheese IMO. The raw milk sold in stores is not straight from the cow but has been pasteurized because of the law -- so in our state raw cow's milk is not truly "raw" but pasteurized (heated) to kill all the good bacteria as well as the bad. The only way to have truly "raw" cow's milk is to own the cow but the milk from her can't be sold to others. Someone suggested buying half or a third of a cow with other people and share the milk from her -- as long as the milk isn't "sold" -- authorities are getting into everyone's private business about raw milk when its huge industrial farms that are the culprits for diseases and bacteria!

 

[Coop de Grass]

Hi all!

Does anyone have experience breeding a Bielefelder Roo with Black French Copper Marans Hens? I am wondering if the autosexing trait is seen in the first generation. I have set some in my NYD hatchalong, but am curious to see what your experiences are.

 

[Faraday40]

Hi all!

Does anyone have experience breeding a Bielefelder Roo with Black French Copper Marans Hens? I am wondering if the autosexing trait is seen in the first generation. I have set some in my NYD hatchalong, but am curious to see what your experiences are.

It doesn't hurt to experiment. I have bred a CCL hen (similar appearance to Bieles) to a purebred Black Orp roo. Because the hen had barring & the male did not, the barring could only be passed on to the male offspring. (It should only work for the 1st generation, but it made sexlink chicks.)

 

[Dianne88]

I know my girl is a mix but she is beautiful! Mom was white with a few black spots and dad was a full blooded Bielefelder. She's about 22wks and no eggs yet.

 

[DesertChic]

I know my girl is a mix but she is beautiful! Mom was white with a few black spots and dad was a full blooded Bielefelder. She's about 22wks and no eggs yet.

She is lovely! Bielefelder's are great birds to mix with.

 

[Faraday40]

x2

 

[Faraday40]

I went out to the coop to take some pics of the spring/summer hatches - all grown up.
Here's "Hen Solo"
She's our only Bielefelder & one of the few that are laying. (Many are molting & 2 of the orps haven't started laying yet.) It's about 12'F outside (feels like -7'F), so I must attempt to collect eggs often. I'm only getting 1-4 eggs per day, so I'd hate to lose one b/c it froze. Temps are going to drop in the next few days. Sunday's high will be -5'F..... and you don't want to know the low !

Thankfully, the Biele's comb is not as tall as my orps. She should be fine.

 

[DesertChic]

I went out to the coop to take some pics of the spring/summer hatches - all grown up.
Here's "Hen Solo"
She's our only Bielefelder & one of the few that are laying. (Many are molting & 2 of the orps haven't started laying yet.) It's about 12'F outside (feels like -7'F), so I must attempt to collect eggs often. I'm only getting 1-4 eggs per day, so I'd hate to lose one b/c it froze. Temps are going to drop in the next few days. Sunday's high will be -5'F..... and you don't want to know the low !

Thankfully, the Biele's comb is not as tall as my orps. She should be fine.

Hen Solo is so lovely! But those temperatures.....

I love Arizona. It's supposed to reach 80* this afternoon.