A century of Turkey talk 2000-2100.

[duluthralphie]

Goronson, It was not me who commented...Ask R2elk, I think he is by far the most knowledgeable of all of us with years on all of us, and years experience counts...

My first thought was the rest of the flock. I would get them isolated, really isolated on the remote chance whatever it is, is airborne. The next thing is get a sample to your state poultry lab. You may need to get someone to take the sample for you, unless you are "approved " the may not take a sample. The sample for that is "saliva" It comes from the back of the throat and the roof of the mouth, between the two "sections".

If it is MG I think you need to prepare to cull. Not things you wanted to hear is it? Sorry.


The other thing it could be is Marak's. but I find that doubtful as you have chickens and turkeys both.


Best of luck to you...

 

[duluthralphie]

My post for today is a repost of the one I just posted to the surviving Mn thread. It is mainly a turkey day.

Good Morn...

I am hatching today. I tried to hatch in the 2nd CQF because the turning motor needs to be replaced.

Terrible, terrible, terrible thing to do. I could not get the moisture level high enough. I added sponges, more water tanks, more sponges, I misted the insides through the vents from the outside. It was terrible!

Temps held nice and steady over the foam is the only thing. I have 6 turkeys out of around 30-40 eggs. The rest I am afraid are dead. They were alive at day 25. I moved all the eggs last night to the foam incubators. Not what I really wanted to do. I have 90% now so maybe something will hatch. Who knows.

I have chicken eggs hatching in a second foam incubator. So far only 2 have hatched, Both EE's. I have about 30-40 of them to hatch too.

Beings I used the 1202's I used the hatching tray they have in them. One on the bottom, one on the middle shelf. I could not use egg cartons. I like hatching in cut up egg cartoons!

This is going to make me buy 2 automatic humidity control thingys. Yeah, I know a bucket with a float, and some sponges.

Also when I build a hatcher this summer, I will be making it so I can hatch in cartons. BTW I only opened the doors to add water and then for seconds. By far the worst hatch rate of the year.



I have a turkey setting on 8 eggs she has been doing so for about 2 weeks. She is in the corner of the coop. She is a young flighty one. I have her eggs marked with a red X so I can remove the extra eggs. The night before last, it was dark when I picked eggs. There was a second turkey trying to horn in on the nest. I just picked her up and moved her away. I was surprised she let me pick her up so easy.

Yesterday afternoon I picked eggs again. The second turkey was there again. It was light so I could see it was Ethel. I picked her up and petted her and talked to her, I told her she needed to keep laying eggs and let the young one have the nest. Oh, and as usual the young one got off the nest and went to the far corner of the coop when I came in. I set Ethel down and picked through the eggs taking the 2 good ones.

Ethel must not have listened to my little talk real well. She went over sat on the eggs and then gently rolled the couple eggs that were outside of her, under her. Rearranging them just like she wanted them. I have a feeling things did not go well when the young one came back. Ethel did not seem to be in the mood to give up the eggs.

I am thinking of stealing the eggs and forcing them both to start laying again. After the spoiled hatch I need more eggs. Or I could just let them hatch and steal the babies. Thoughts?

 

[duluthralphie]

Hi Folks,
I am sorry to break into this discussion with a different thread but I trust your advice and I need it. One of my roosters started sneezing. I treated him with Denagard for 5 days as recommended but I think I under dosed and it came back. The the other rooster got sick and last night the 2nd one was foaming at the beak and wheezing. started them all on a stronger dose of Denagard. But just now I noticed that my Tom, who hasn't appeared sick but lives in the same pen, is making a noise like someone sucking up the last remains of a milkshake. So he has it too! Please help!

I was going after some Tylan 200 injectable for the chickens. I read 3/4 cc injected into the breast. Should I do this for Tommy, too?

I work plus take care of the animals and a 90 year old so I guess this developed more quickly than I was able to respond and I feel terrible. TThank you for any advice you can give me.

In chickens, infection may be inapparent or result in varying degrees of respiratory distress, with slight to marked rales, difficulty breathing, coughing, and/or sneezing. Morbidity is high and mortality low in uncomplicated cases. Nasal discharge and conjunctivitis with frothiness about the eyes may be present. The disease is generally more severe in turkeys than in chickens, and swelling of the infraorbital sinuses is common. Feed efficiency and weight gains are reduced. Commercial broiler chickens and market turkeys may suffer high condemnations at processing due to airsacculitis. In laying flocks, birds may fail to reach peak egg production, and the overall production rate is lower than normal.

Mycoplasma gallisepticum, turkey

Mycoplasma gallisepticum, chicken

Uncomplicated M gallisepticum infections in chickens result in relatively mild catarrhal sinusitis, tracheitis, and airsacculitis. E coli infections are often concurrent and result in severe air sac thickening and turbidity, with exudative accumulations, adhesive pericarditis, and fibrinous perihepatitis. Turkeys develop severe mucopurulent sinusitis and varying degrees of tracheitis and airsacculitis. Microscopically, involved mucous membranes are thickened, hyperplastic, necrotic, and infiltrated with inflammatory cells. The mucosal lamina propria contains focal areas of lymphoid hypoplasia and germinal center formations








Does this sound like what you have or not? I am crossing my fingers for not!

 

[Goronson Chicks]

Hi Ralphie
Sorry for delay I am on the road ur thanks for sending this. Tommy isn't this severe yet. I sat with him on the porch on Monday and been round him plenty and never heard anything till last night. Scared me to death. I've got him on Denagard and another wide spectrum antibiotic in the water. Dosed him with eye dropper before bed and this morning fed him oatmeal with same mixture. Can turkeys recover from this? Will he always be a carrier?

 

[duluthralphie]

Hi Ralphie
Sorry for delay I am on the road ur thanks for sending this. Tommy isn't this severe yet. I sat with him on the porch on Monday and been round him plenty and never heard anything till last night. Scared me to death. I've got him on Denagard and another wide spectrum antibiotic in the water. Dosed him with eye dropper before bed and this morning fed him oatmeal with same mixture. Can turkeys recover from this? Will he always be a carrier?

I have no idea on either question. I know here in MN if they are diagnosed they destroy them.. I am hoping he just has the birdy sniffles.

 

[Goronson Chicks]

Me too.

 

[mom of silkies]

Somebody help me! My turkey poults are pipping than "shrink wrapping" or whatever that's called where the membrane is suffocating them! The humidity was at around 90% I don't understand! What's wrong with them!?!!?! Is it too humid? The temperature has been 99.5 the whole hatch time. And the humidity around 40% before lockdown sometimes around only 35, is that what's wrong?!?!? Someone please help!

 

[OneMountainAcres]

Somebody help me! My turkey poults are pipping than "shrink wrapping" or whatever that's called where the membrane is suffocating them! The humidity was at around 90% I don't understand! What's wrong with them!?!!?! Is it too humid? The temperature has been 99.5 the whole hatch time. And the humidity around 40% before lockdown sometimes around only 35, is that what's wrong?!?!? Someone please help!

Get your humidity down to 65,quick! My first hatch with turkeys I did the same thing, they're suffocating

 

[mom of silkies]

Get your humidity down to 65,quick! My first hatch with turkeys I did the same thing, they're suffocating

I have chicken eggs in with them will that hurt the chicks???

 

[OneMountainAcres]

I have chicken eggs in with them will that hurt the chicks???

The high humidity will suffocate the chicks too. 65% will work for both turkey and chicken eggs. I've hatched them at the same time many times.