A century of Turkey talk 2000-2100.

[casportpony]

Well, Tommie (The Tank) Tucker Turkey is starting to look like.....a real turkey!
(and not just a goofy looking bird)

 

[casportpony]

Last night one of the Blue Slate hens did not show up for bedtime. This morning after stumbling through all kinds of weeds, having a sneezing fit, I finally found her. She was hiding on a nest in the middle of 4' tall sweet clover.

Royal Palm hen

Mule deer helping himself to the Russian Olives

Great shots!

 

[duluthralphie]

Ralphie, did you get that poultry textbook yet?

I did not, I have it in my cart waiting on my next order, my own health problems have kept me from ordering anything right now. Hopefully, I will make an order for next week.

 

[duluthralphie]

I didn't think that poultry got liver flukes. Oviduct flukes, but not liver flukes, though I could be wrong. Please let me know what the name of a poultry liver fluke is so I can read about it.

Worm things in the pockets? What pockets? I'm kind of clueless.View attachment 1131873

I am not sure they do get liver flukes. I just thought those looked like a "worm Sac" more than a tumor, and the spots were not right for Mareks.

I was talking to Holm on the phone and I asked him to cut one of them open and see if it had a fluke/slug/worm inside and it did. I read that same article you posted on the oviduct flukes.

Keeping a bird from drinking "pond water" and eating dragonflies would be next to impossible up here, with free range birds. ( one of the reason turkeys are raised indoors instead of outdoors like they use to 45 years or so ago.)

I send an email to the State Poultry Vet, (we are on a first name basis, my doing not hers. She would just as soon forget I was alive I think somedays)..I also called the USDA vet and she had no idea about the worms or Limperneck/botulism treatments.....


I find them good resources, and much cheaper than calling a private vet and getting a 200 buck bill for a 5 dollar bird....


I asked Holm if there were any of those worm sacs/ tumors anywhere else and he said no. I hope I got that right on his response.

I guess I need that Poultry book sooner than the next order from Amazon....


I called than a liver fluke for lack of a better term.

 

[rjohns39]

I didn't think that poultry got liver flukes. Oviduct flukes, but not liver flukes, though I could be wrong. Please let me know what the name of a poultry liver fluke is so I can read about it.

Worm things in the pockets? What pockets? I'm kind of clueless.View attachment 1131873

Kathy, when you use the word "clueless" it scares me to death

 

[casportpony]

Kathy, when you use the word "clueless" it scares me to death

That's the way I feel sometimes, lol.

 

[memphis]

Tommy the Tank is looking good!! Handsome boy.

Ralph/Holm...how old was the bird in question?

 

[duluthralphie]

Tommy the Tank is looking good!! Handsome boy.

Ralph/Holm...how old was the bird in question?

I am not sure, but I know it was this years hatch...

My botulism theory is over, the State Vet says it can only be transmitted by birds eating maggots on dead carcasses...Which s better than eating maggots on live carcasses....


Do not tell anyone, but I am doubting him on this. A lame bird or limperneck bird, with no obvious internal abnormalities, that does not free range, Still looks like botulism to me, even when there is no dead carcasses in the pen/run/coop.

IMHO......

 

[R2elk]

My botulism theory is over, the State Vet says it can only be transmitted by birds eating maggots on dead carcasses...Which s better than eating maggots on live carcasses....

Based on a quick internet search, I believe you have been misinformed by a person who should know better.

Botulism: Causes, Symptoms... states

"Botulism (or botulism poisoning) is a rare but very serious illness that transmits through food, contact with contaminated soil, or through an open wound. Without early treatment, botulism can lead to paralysis, breathing difficulties, and death."

The vast majority of botulism information available is related to humans and likely very limited knowledge about it as related to poultry. If botulism can be contracted through contaminate soil, I see no reason that dirt scratching/eating poultry would not be able to contract botulism without eating grubs.

Unfortunately this particular site does not give any information on symptoms that would be of value when trying to diagnose botulism in poultry.

Overview of Botulism in Poultry referred to as limberneck or Western Duck Sickness and is definitely not confined to contract by eating maggots.

 

[karenerwin]

About how old are turkeys (on average) when they begin to get a beard?