Thank you! Something felt really off about this pair with their location, the way they perched and looked huge compared to the local crows. I'll research the ravens in my area. The girls have been in their fenced area with only a supervised evening out since the attack last Friday. We added hawk netting over the gap and the only other open-ish areas have fishing line or rebar wiring with a grape vine covering it. Both have worked great for a year now but once we can get a good look at the gaps we will cover them all. I'm super upset about not closing that gap. I knew it was there but from what I understood a hawk has to be pretty desperate to land in a small space without an easy retreat. Lesson learnedI hope you are correct that they are just crows. Ravens have arrow shaped tail feathers where as the crows are the size of a pigeon.The Raven has a 4 ft wing span and hunts in pairs (One distracts the prey animals while the other one makes the kill)Crows typically hang out in groups(called a murder of crows) whereas Ravens are called a Conspiracy.
I would be very careful letting my smaller birds out with Hawks and Crows(or Ravens) hanging around. My advise is put their birds up for a while.Young Ravens look like crows.

We do let them free range but I am usually in and out every 30 minutes with the dogs while also watching and listening when inside. Any attacks we've had are when the pups have not been out in a few hours. They seem to have picked up on this. I need to really get going on some boredom busters because they all stare through the fence longing to be let out and it just breaks my heart


Thanks so much for this new info!