ABA Standard for Marans

I can understand the EU rules on names of types of cheese wine etc. i think these rules were not made to prevent hobbyists from using the name but to stop companies outside the region taking business away from the local businesses in the region.
Many of the British Marans breeders have breeding these birds for decades as their hobby. While I personally do not want to breed British type Marans & prefer to follow standard of country of origin, I believe people ought to be allowed the freedom of choice. (If I know my countryfolk they'll carry on calling them what they want anyway.
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) I think seems a ruddy cheek to make a law to control or restrict them. What harm do they do to anyone if they want to call their birds British type Marans? Do you think this kind of thing warrants a law?

I can see what you're saying about the copper blues & the whites.....but we did get them with the help of the Marans Club de France. In Normandy the copper blacks seemed rather like the Light Sussex in UK. They seem to be the usual farmyard breed. And like the LS there are some very beautiful birds but many which fit into the category often described as "utility'.
While the French Marans' eggs were, in my experience, usually beautiful, the copper blacks often seem to have wheaten or other genes in them.
A girl from Belgium sent me some lovely copper black eggs .....the birds looked nice enough but they carried mo.
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Krys
 
Maybe its an urban legend, but wasnt it the British Marans breeders that helped the French get back Marans for breeding after WWII? The Marans had all but disapeared after the war...True or False?

The ABA standard for Marans has been on the books for years and years...would the French Marans tradmark name even apply to a standard that has been around for years before the French owned the copyright name on it? Same for the British Marans...

Jerry
 
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the National Symbol of France The Chicken? Isn't that why they would want to protect it?
I may be wrong............

Bob
 
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the National Symbol of France The Chicken? Isn't that why they would want to protect it?

True one of the French national symbols is a cock....this dates back from medieval times & could not be a Marans. Marans, I gather, were developed rather later from the mixing of British fighting cocks from naval vessels with the local hens at La Rochelle.

Also the English coats of arms is a lion....well three these days. It started off as one lion in the days of Henry II (1154) a Plantagent king who also ruled rather a large portion of France. Would this justify England patenting lions?
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True one of the French national symbols is a cock....this dates back from medieval times & could not be a Marans. Marans, I gather, were developed rather later from the mixing of British fighting cocks from naval vessels with the local hens at La Rochelle.

Also the English coats of arms is a lion....well three these days. It started off as one lion in the days of Henry II (1154) a Plantagent king who also ruled rather a large portion of France. Would this justify England patenting lions?
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I am sorry but you missed my feeble attempt at humor. But your post was interesting

Bob
 
I am sorry but you missed my feeble attempt at humor. But your post was interesting

I'm sorry. I don't always pick up on US humour.
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Cultural differences I expect. I know plenty of US & Canadian people who don't get British humour either.
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First, the USA is not in the EU.

Second, champagne is produced and exported by, amongst other people, large corporations. Marans are not. That greatly affects the economic forces and legalities involved.

Third, we can not legally import large numbers of French Marans into the USA. Therefore, there is no material danger to international trade.

Fourth, as has already been mentioned, the ABA standards were around for a long time before France ever thought of trying to exert legal control over the name.

The ABA reprinted the Marans bantam standards because a number of Marans Chicken Club members (and probably other folks as well) wrote in to the ABA asking for more information about those standards. I don't know how, or if, the reprinting of these standards will end up affecting the MCC's progression towards APA approval -- but I am glad they have been printed in any case.
 
Interesting things unearthed...
The re-appearance of the ABA Marans Standard brought to light a contradiction on tail angles, where the ABA male is 40 degrees/female is 35 degrees. The MCC proposal to the APA for the large Marans calls for 45 degrees in each sex, and I presume that was patterned after the current French standard. Guess I need to check.
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There is always reluctance to put in place an APA Standard description that creates a conflict with the ABA and vice versa, but we may be in a situation where that must be done and then work on reconciling later.

I'm not sure I agree with the statements that the Marans bantams have been recognized by the ABA for years and years...
The current list of "inactive" breeds seems to have quite a few that have never appeared before.
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Blackred, keep working on the humor. I'll sponsor you at the Comedy Club if you get up to the MetroMess!

See ya,

Sam
 

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