Advice please! Broken foot + degloving injury

[Folly's place]

Nolvasan is way better than Betadine for cleansing, because it causes less or no tissue damage itself. I have no idea if peafowl can handle Clavimox or clindamycin, so find out first. Again, contact your vet school, or a rescue, or how about a big zoo that has peafowl?
Mary

 

[CatWhisperer]

Hibiclens is the same active ingredient as Nolvasan. I thought more people would recognize the name. Betadine surgical soap should be safe for tissue, especially stinky necrotic tissue.

 

[casportpony]

I have no idea if peafowl can handle Clavimox or clindamycin,

My vets have prescribed Clavamox for my peafowl, so I know that's okay. Pretty sure clindamycin is okay too, but no idea what the dose would be.

 

[StPaulieGirls]

It's just the one foot. I'm in touch with an animal rescue that has other peacocks and am hopeful they can help.

I'm on the conservative track of cleaning and applying antibiotic, but it sounds like I need something from a vet other than triple antibiotic. I've never given injectable antibiotics. I tried to give him oral antibiotics on bread but he didn't eat it. I've read the posts about injecting into the breast.

He didn't eat very much today. He's pooping. Is pooping a sign that he's eating and drinking something, or would he poop if he were just metabolizing fat or whatever happens when animals start starving?

He can still stand. He's very sedate -- spends most of the day lying down facing the mirror. I guess I would too, but I'm worried he's declining slowly. He's probably depressed, or whatever the animal version of depressed is, being separated from his flock.

** What would the early signs of septicemia or sepsis look like? **

Today is the first mild day we've had in a long time and one of the other juveniles flew up higher into the trees mid-day -- very methodically and not in a panic -- and I swear she was looking for Pascal.

 

[casportpony]

Have you been weighing him daily? If not, I suggest you start weighing him.

He didn't eat very much today. He's pooping. Is pooping a sign that he's eating and drinking something, or would he poop if he were just metabolizing fat or whatever happens when animals start starving?

Pooping is a good sign, but tracking weight is an absolute must for me. How old di did you say he is? Let me know his age and his weight and I can tell you if he's in the normal range or not.

 

[KsKingBee]

It's just the one foot. I'm in touch with an animal rescue that has other peacocks and am hopeful they can help.

I'm on the conservative track of cleaning and applying antibiotic, but it sounds like I need something from a vet other than triple antibiotic. I've never given injectable antibiotics. I tried to give him oral antibiotics on bread but he didn't eat it. I've read the posts about injecting into the breast.

He didn't eat very much today. He's pooping. Is pooping a sign that he's eating and drinking something, or would he poop if he were just metabolizing fat or whatever happens when animals start starving?

He can still stand. He's very sedate -- spends most of the day lying down facing the mirror. I guess I would too, but I'm worried he's declining slowly. He's probably depressed, or whatever the animal version of depressed is, being separated from his flock.

** What would the early signs of septicemia or sepsis look like? **

Today is the first mild day we've had in a long time and one of the other juveniles flew up higher into the trees mid-day -- very methodically and not in a panic -- and I swear she was looking for Pascal.

The miracle salve we used is called Fura-Zone you should be able to pick some up at the local vet. FYI almost all injections for birds are SQ only, meaning that it is given between the skin and the meat. Most injections given in the muscle will cause necrosis or bruising and dying of the tissue. By inserting the needle into the skin at a very low angle you can guide and keep the tip between the skin and the muscle.

I don't remember if I told you that once the dead tissue, toes and foot, becomes dry you can snip that part off. Being careful not to cut too close to the living tissue so there will be no bleeding and the bird will feel nothing. When we applied the Fura-Zone we would massage the feet and toes to keep what was left flexible.

 

[StPaulieGirls]

He's not eating or drinking.
Why is he still pooping?
Wondering if I should put him out with my chickens (in his own crate) so he has company? I've got a sweeter heater and a dog mat. I could bring him in (super stressful) for bandage changes...

 

[aart]

He's not eating or drinking.
Why is he still pooping?

If he's pooping, he must be eating.
Pics of poop might help.

 

[StPaulieGirls]

If he's pooping, he must be eating.
Pics of poop might help.

Here's a poop shot.

 

[StPaulieGirls]

Thanks again to everyone for the concern and advice. This morning, we cleaned and rebandaged the bad foot. Because he's been bearing weight on the other foot, we see now that the other foot is in fact just as broken and getting mangled. I washed and splinted that foot, too. Attached are photos.

I think all this was rough on him, as by the time I put him back in the crate he was trembling. No wonder he's been spending all his time lying down. I hope all this pain and stress is worth it from his point of view. Maybe he'll heal in the coming weeks. I'm feeling discouraged again about his quality of life.

We had a thaw yesterday and his family was out grazing in the exposed patches grass. It's good to see them doing well.