All 'Blues' the same for breeding ratios? d'Uccles, too?

[Krys109uk]

Self blue birds do not have any other color in their feathers other than blue. They are solid blue from tail to beak.

This is true, but self blue in UK standards (& many other Englsh speaking countries, I believe) refers to andalusian blue with no edging. Solid grey/blue throughout without lacing, such as in UK blue wyandottes & others.
There are many names for the ways lavender expresses depending upon country. In many European countries it seems to be referred to as "pearl grey" in many languages, which seems a pretty good name to me.

afaik self blue, meaning a solid blue bird by lavender gene, seems to be a term only used in US.​

 

[wegotchickens]

So if the feathers on one bird appear to have a darker blue lacing around the edges (but not black at all) then are they still self-blue?

 

[tadkerson]

no, Self blue refers to a bird that is a solid color with no other color or patterns.

Tim

 

[Krys109uk]

So if the feathers on one bird appear to have a darker blue lacing around the edges (but not black at all) then are they still self-blue?

The colour you describe, with the dark edging is Andalusian blue.​

 

[wegotchickens]

Interesting. Well, they were all labelled as self-blues in the show, and will be again in the next show. We'll see what the judges say...

In the meantime, I can see my spring hatching could be really fun LOL. Forrest Gump eggs, "'Cause ya never know whatcher gonna get."

 

[wegotchickens]

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The colour you describe, with the dark edging is Andalusian blue.

The line is very faint, and DH disagrees that it's there at all. He thinks one is just a tad darker than the other 2.

 

[Krys109uk]

Even the guy at the poultry show called them self-blues and not lavenders.

They are very probably lavenders, aka self blue in US.
If you are worried you could post a pic? Or you could breed them together & see what you get.

 

[JestersEye]

I have both Blue Andalusians and Blue Orpingtons. The blue birds are much lighter blue than I have seen in pictures, and don't have very apparent lacing.

Is there a way to breed darker blue birds or increase the amount of lacing in their offspring? Can the quality of the blue color increase when you breed two blues together, or are the results the same as crossing a black and a splash which produces only blue chicks?

 

[wegotchickens]

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They are very probably lavenders, aka self blue in US.
If you are worried you could post a pic? Or you could breed them together & see what you get.

The pics I currently have are of the birds when younger, but I'll see what I can find. They come home from the show Saturday, so I can recent pics then.

Yes, they WILL be bred so I can see what I get! Not just color, but to see if they can throw me a roo without wattles!

 

[wegotchickens]

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All good questions but over my head. Hopefully one of the previous (and well educated) posters on this thread can answer that. I'm curious to hear the verdict as well.