Ameraucana thread for posting pictures and discussing our birds

[tigercreek]

Help me learn...what do you mean by leakage?

I just got this boy..he's about 7 months old...



Edit to add...I think I see it now next to the other roo...the leakage is the dirty brown coloring?
BTW, the beard on mine is not that "dirty" looking

Good looking cockerel...I think he will fill out in the breast some more..has good lines and a good tail set....that is a sign of good breeding to me...tail set is one of the first things to go in poor breeding....leakage is usually confined to the male feathers...hackel , sickle and taail...I would not expect it in the beard esp if it is not seen in the other areas...

 

[DonumDei]

Hi, hoping I can get some feed back on this guy? I am debating if I should give him some of my splash Am. girls? I have a black Am. roo over blue , black and splash hens and I have 2 other Am. breeding pens with blue roos over blue and black hens. I have a BC maran roo over several Am. splash hens but, he doesn't seem to be doing his job because I'm not getting many fertile eggs from that pen.

Fried Green,
just curious, why aren't you breeding black-black and blue/splash to blue?

I was thinking that might be the source of the leakage in that cockerel.

-Pat

 

[DonumDei]

Hi, hoping I can get some feed back on this guy? I am debating if I should give him some of my splash Am. girls? I have a black Am. roo over blue , black and splash hens and I have 2 other Am. breeding pens with blue roos over blue and black hens. I have a BC maran roo over several Am. splash hens but, he doesn't seem to be doing his job because I'm not getting many fertile eggs from that pen.

Fried Green,

Just curious, why aren't you breeding Black-Black and Blue/Splash-Blue?

I was thinking that might be the source of your leakage? If you do breed him, I'd only keep the pullets.

my $.02

Pat

 

[tigercreek]

Fried Green,

Just curious, why aren't you breeding Black-Black and Blue/Splash-Blue?

I was thinking that might be the source of your leakage? If you do breed him, I'd only keep the pullets.

my $.02

Pat

Leakage is caused because of the gold base color.....nothing wrong with breeding blue to black as long as you know the base color...the best blues come from silver based birds whether they are black, blue or splash

 

[birdman55]

any thoughts on if this bird is true...or just a ee...i got him in with a bunch of different breeds...just wondering

 

[draye]

any thoughts on if this bird is true...or just a ee...i got him in with a bunch of different breeds...just wondering

It is an EE or else different colors of Ameraucana bred together. He's a pretty boy though.

 

[jerryse]

any thoughts on if this bird is true...or just a ee...i got him in with a bunch of different breeds...just wondering

EE

 

[DonumDei]

Leakage is caused because of the gold base color.....nothing wrong with breeding blue to black as long as you know the base color...the best blues come from silver based birds whether they are black, blue or splash

Not saying there's anything inherently wrong with breeding black x blue. However, you said yourself that the best blues are silver based. If that's the case, and the best blacks are gold why would you breed the two? Like I said, there's nothing "wrong" with it but i do believe you are limiting your flock's potential.

Pat

 

[birdman55]

i figured as much...thanks for the input

 

[tigercreek]

Not saying there's anything inherently wrong with breeding black x blue. However, you said yourself that the best blues are silver based. If that's the case, and the best blacks are gold why would you breed the two? Like I said, there's nothing "wrong" with it but i do believe you are limiting your flock's potential.

Pat

The main reasons I can think of for breeding the two are limited numbers of breeder space? You can produce blues, blacks and splashes, so you basically get 3 colors from a BBS pen...If you want to produce blues and blacks, there really isn't a reason to not breed them. There are a lot of good blacks produced by silver based birds, and many will tell you that you must breed blues back to blacks to keep the dilute gene from lightening the black too much and making an undesirable ( to them) light blue. So, my thinking is that yes, the best blacks come from gold base, and the best blues from silver, but I would not limit a small flock to one of the two colors...there really isn't that much difference between the two if you can keep the leakage down on the gold based blues...I think that is where it comes from... geezz, I confuse myself sometimes....