Ameraucana thread for posting pictures and discussing our birds

[PapaChaz]

Doesn't sit right with me either and I have and breed show stock. I believe it has much more to do with the area you live in, what people are willing to pay and whether you just sell locally or ship. Granted, when you ship, you do broaden your market and can increase your prices.
Just like the statements made that birds on Craigslist are probably EE's. No, I can say with confidence, not all are, because I use it sometimes. You just have to know what you are looking for is supposed to look like because I have seen many EE's advertised as Ameraucanas there. I sometimes write them and let them know.

yeah, guess where I found the breeder I bought from.........yup, craigslist.

I told him about BYC and he should sign up. He told me someone who had recently bought some wheaten ameraucanas from him had also told him about us here. Don't know if he's signed up, haven't seen anyone I would think is him.

I also would never pay that amount, but sometimes a seller will 'see ya comin' and think he can get one over on you. I've had it happen on different things throughout my 57 years.

And for the record, this guy ships all over. He had 40 4 week olds he was getting ready to ship to indiana that someone was going to raise for show purposes. I didn't ask what he was getting each for them, it wasn't any of my business, but I would expect he would have gotten a little bit more per bird for feeding them for that long and the extra shipping costs...

 

[jerryse]

jerryse you are familiar with the lavender color and the genetics involved. What would happen in a BBS pen if a black split somehow was added to that pen unknowing it was a split? What genes are the splits carrying. What would one see in the offspring if they bred a split to a blue or black?
Is there anything a breeder can see on a split that would identify it as such?
I'm just wondering because I'm sure there are many splits out there that some may think are blacks and sell as such.

I no longer breed BBS for this reason . I now breed blue with splash so no blacks are used or produced . Any blacks of mine may be split for lavender . Breeding blue and lavender together is not recommended . You can get birds that are both blue and lavender in later generations . Makes it hard to tell what you have .

 

[PapaChaz]

I no longer breed BBS for this reason . I now breed blue with splash so no blacks are used or produced . Any blacks of mine may be split for lavender . Breeding blue and lavender together is not recommended . You can get birds that are both blue and lavender in later generations . Makes it hard to tell what you have .

interesting..........thanks for the info you two

 

[Sylvester017]

so have you looked at the pics I posted? mine aren't EE's for sure. Although I'm not interested in showing them. This breeder is relatively new with the breed, got his breed stock from Paul Smith and hatches roughly 40 eggs every monday. Albeit, in the bator he'll have Blue, Black, and Wheaten Ameraucanas, and cream legbars. Maybe he doesn't know what he has? maybe he just believes in a fair price? maybe he isn't sure of his stock yet? Maybe he's just trying to get established?

He'd been into breeding game chickens for years, and as mentioned, only recently decided to go with these. From the looks of his layout, which was pretty impressive to me, (for what that's worth) he talked like he knows what he's doing.

Not trying to be argumentative, but the tone of 'if it was under $10 it's probably an EE' just didn't set right with me.

No offense taken PapaChaz.

A couple years ago getting pure Ameraucanas (even pet quality) was pricier. It's probable now with many new breeders of APA Ameraucanas that the popularity of the breed has brought prices down in the backyard arena - which is usually what happens once quantity and many diverse breeding stocks become available. It's like GFF that charged $5,000 for one breeding pair of rare Cemanis and/or Swedish Blacks when first imported and now you can get the chicks at $99 each. Availability and established breeders/owners bring the prices down.

Like previously stated, if you can get APA Amers under $10 grab them! They are a marvelous breed to have for so many reasons besides the blue eggs! Nothing wrong with EEs but I personally like knowing I will get a fairly guaranteed blue egg and in the feather color I prefer rather than taking a chance on what an EE turns out as an adult.

Don't get hurt as this is a forum for discussion and not meant for offending. All opinions/experiences welcome and your experience is enlightening the progress of Ameraucanas for the rest of us

 

[PapaChaz]

No offense taken PapaChaz.

A couple years ago getting pure Ameraucanas (even pet quality) was pricier. It's probable now with many new breeders of APA Ameraucanas that the popularity of the breed has brought prices down in the backyard arena - which is usually what happens once quantity and many diverse breeding stocks become available. It's like GFF that charged $5,000 for one breeding pair of rare Cemanis and/or Swedish Blacks when first imported and now you can get the chicks at $99 each. Availability and established breeders/owners bring the prices down.

Like previously stated, if you can get APA Amers under $10 grab them! They are a marvelous breed to have for so many reasons besides the blue eggs! Nothing wrong with EEs but I personally like knowing I will get a fairly guaranteed blue egg and in the feather color I prefer rather than taking a chance on what an EE turns out as an adult.

Don't get hurt as this is a forum for discussion and not meant for offending. All opinions/experiences welcome and your experience is enlightening the progress of Ameraucanas for the rest of us

oh not hurt at all, sorry if I come off as a know it all sometimes, I'll be the first to admit I'm clueless on a lot of it. I think I said it before, all I can go by is what I've read since I have no actual experience.



It's why I enjoy the conversation jerry and mrs bachbach are having about the genetics part of it. I do pay attention to people who know more than I, and then when one says something that don't jive with something I've read, well I'm usually the one in class that questions EVERYTHING......no offense meant

 

[Sylvester017]

exactly, thank you........

yeah mine were straight run as well. I'll just go ahead and say if the going rate for Ameraucana's here in GA were the same as in southern california, I'd have been looking for easter eggers, cause there's no way I'd pay what the rate is there just to get eggs with blue shells.

Just a slight correction regarding price statement -- I paid $50 + shipping for a show stock juvenile from COLORADO shipped to Calif - so the price is not SoCal prices but Colorado prices. I got a gorgeous Blue pullet - it's a shame I'm not zoned for roos too!

 

[pips&peeps]

My chicks also are $8 each and I believe Paul Smith prices his birds in the same range.

IMHO, it's all about a fool and his money......

 

[dstokely]

My chicks also are $8 each and I believe Paul Smith prices his birds in the same range.

IMHO, it's all about a fool and his money......

No, mine were almost double that last year. $15/pc straight run.

I could not get that here, but I live in a depressed area plus I certainly do not have the reputation that these breeders do have and have worked hard for. I was proud to get them and never thought too much about the cost.

 

[samouw]

My chicks also are $8 each and I believe Paul Smith prices his birds in the same range.

IMHO, it's all about a fool and his money......

Pretty close. I think my recent chicks from Paul ended up being about $9 and some change per bird plus shipping.

 

[MrsBachbach]

I no longer breed BBS for this reason . I now breed blue with splash so no blacks are used or produced . Any blacks of mine may be split for lavender . Breeding blue and lavender together is not recommended . You can get birds that are both blue and lavender in later generations . Makes it hard to tell what you have . 

I hope you don't think I was suggesting you had done this? I wasn't! I just thought you might know the outcome if someone does sell a split as a black (not knowing what they really have) and it gets in a BBS pen. If there was any way to tell. Sounds like there isn't and the only way one would find out is if a lavender pops up somewhere down the road. Two black splits could produce a lavender, right? That would be one way to know? Thanks.